Floyd Mayweather vs Julio Cesar Chavez @ 135.

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Taylor was also a mental midget in the ring and defense was average at best.
     
  2. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    PBF is not like PEA!

    I see the fight like Castillo vs PBF, only Chavez is LEAGUES above Castillo.:deal
     
  3. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hm lets see, both were counterpunchers, both were defense first fighters, both stood in front and made guys miss, yeah I dont see anything they have in common.:patsch
     
  4. Pimp C

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    Nobody in boxing history from 147 and down would beat PBF pretty easy.:deal Only a fool would make a statement. He's too good defensively to allow it to happen. PBF is all wrong for Chavez his speed, movement, defense. counter-punching, ring IQ, stamina and chin would pose a tall order for JCC. JCC struggles with pure boxers.
     
  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Anyone saying JCC would beat PBF pretty easy needs to be slapped.
     
  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Exactly their ****ing stupid. PBF has the styles advantage in this fight but they ignore it because of hate...pathetic.:-(
     
  7. IsaL

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    If Castillo was able to comfortably beat him at 135, I'm sure Duran, SRL, Hearns, CHAVEZ, SRR, Pernell Whitaker would ALL beat him, some more comfortably than others, but comfortably none the less.
     
  8. Pimp C

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    PBF may not be Pea but he's the best defensive fighter of his era and has more than enough defense to give a guy like Chavez fits.:deal PBF was also a better conter-puncher than Pea due to the fact his shoulder roll leaves him in a better positon to counter and alot of time Pea would duck and dip and be out of postion to counter. How will Chavez deal with PBF's speed, counter-punching, movement and defense? Taylor gave him hell with just speed and combos alone.

    What people like you fail to realize is that when you face a master defensive fighter like PBF who can counter it's really hard to get into a rhythm or hit them cleanly. There's a reason why they're often considered the best boxers of all time and the hardest to match up against.
     
  9. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :patsch

    So since he beat him soo easy then name me one of the first six rounds that Castillo won:-(
     
  10. Pimp C

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    He didn't comfortably beat him. You're an idiot. The fight was close and could have gone either way.:-( A comfortable win is 8-4 or greater.:deal BTW PBF was injured in that fight. How many times does that need to be mentioned before you people get it? In the rematch a healthy PBF won clearly.
     
  11. BITCH ASS

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    But who has PBF fought?

    You can only judge Mayweather based upon his tallent which was mostly against solid, but relatively average opposition.

    The only guy that comes close to Chavez is Castillo and Castillo was nowhere near the same fighter as Chavez. Castillo is a solid fighter, but he's nothing special.

    Same with Corrales and Hatton in my opinion. De La Hoya at one point was a special fighter, but by the time Floyd got to him, you could argue that he was beggining to show signs of wear and tear, and it was a fight that Floyd didn't exactly win decisively.

    Not to mention, Oscar doesn't fight like Chavez either.

    So while Mayweather has the tools to beat Chavez on paper, he doesn't have the resume to back up his claim and Pimp, regardless of how much you personally feel about Mayweather, history will say, "you're only as good as your resume."

    And if Mayweather can prove that he can beat some of the best fighters today, regardless of what weightclass his future fights take place in, it will also strengthen his legacy at lighterweights.

    It's just the way things work.

    Also things didn't work out so well for Roger Mayweather who is just as big as Floyd, but has a longer reach.
     
  12. IsaL

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    It was a close fight, but Castillo's rounds were very clear. Comfortable doesn't always mean lop sided.

    In other words, as boxing fans know this, Castillo controlled the tempo of the fight.
     
  13. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    1ST OFF Floyd was hurt in the 1st fight...Any fighter thats hurt is gonna have an off night and HE STILL WON THAT FIGHT LAST I LOOKED...

    2ND OFF The rematch was pretty 1 sided...I had the 1st fight very close with Mayweather taking it by 1 point I recall...I had mayweather winning the second fight 116-112..

    NOW NOBODY is gonna knock Chavez out at 135 in his prime...I could see Floyd winning a close UD or even a SD...but Chavez always seemed to have trouble with slick boxers such as Taylor and Pea....Floyd is another slick boxer

    And to say that this fight would be easy is a bit to far...I wouldn't be surprised if JCC took it though I'd favor Mayweather!:bbb
     
  14. Pimp C

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    You act as if JCC resume is great. Who did JCC beat that fights like PBF? He has problems with boxers especially elite ones. JCC is easy to hit and a pressure fighter like JCC who is slow isn't going to beat PBF. In order to beat PBF you must have fast hands, good movement, good power, a good jab, a good workrate and be able to counter him. JCC fails in these departments pressure alone isn't going to beat PBF it's been proven time and time again. A guy like Pea, Duran or Shane would give PBF hell at 135.
     
  15. BITCH ASS

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    I agree that pressure ALONE won't beat him, but...

    Proven time and time again, but against who?

    I mean, really who?

    You say JCC doesn't have a good resume, but I see a Prime De La Hoya, Whitaker, Taylor, Mayweather, a prime Kosta Tyzu.

    And while he lost some of those fights, those are all names that are better than anybody on PBF's resume.

    And if anything Roger Mayweather fights more like Floyd than Whitaker does and look what JCC did to him.