Floyd Mayweather Vs Sugar Ray Leonard who wins prime for prime

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  1. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Gazelle Punch already pointed out FMJ's wins, you people just hate him so much that you downgrade the opposition he faced.
    It's ok, I used to hate him ad his style too, but at the same time I'm not blind to how good the man was.
    He's more than capable of out-pointing Leonard.
     
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  2. scandcb

    scandcb Active Member Full Member

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    Yes, it's all because people hate Mayweather.

    Canelo and an old ODH are easily as good as Hearns and Duran.

    Benitez? Not a patch on an injured Pac.
     
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  3. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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  4. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We know. He's going to out speed Leonard -oh wait Leonard's faster.
    Leonard's not going to land flush cause Mayweather is not going to land solidly on Mayweather oh wait Mosley almost took his head off and I believe Zab dropped him and Demarcus staggered him.
    Mayweather could use his one punch power to bail him out like when he knocked out the great Ortiz with a series of right hands oh wait EVERYBODY knocks Ortiz out.

    JMM,MOSLEY, ODH were all in thier primes in thier LATE THIRTIES- its just when they were hitting thier stride right?
     
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  5. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And Corrales did what at WELTERWEIGHT?
    Same with Castillo don't remember him making any noise at Welter.
    You do know about the DIFFERENT weight classes right?
     
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  6. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Leonard wide UD. Bigger stronger more power just as fast. Floyd would be on the defensive most of the time.
     
  7. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sounds like you are talking about Roger not Floyd
     
  8. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe you don't hate him, but many do, and that's causing them to have double standards when they look at things.
    There is nothing wrong with pointing out that some of Mayweather's opponents were not at their best, or past their best or injured, the problem is that should also be done for Leonard.
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    - Pac was injured
    - De la Hoya was past his best
    - JMM was not good enough offensively
    - Castillo beat him etc
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    - Duran beat him the first fight.
    - Duran did not have enough time to drop the necessary weight for their second fight
    - Hearns was way ahead on all scorecards until he got tired
    - Leonard did not do enough to take the title from Hagler
    - Benitez wasn't properly prepared
     
  9. scandcb

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    You are ignoring that Duran, Hearns, Hagler and Benitez were better boxers than JMM, Castillo and ODH in general. Perhaps you could argue that prime Pac was in the same league as Benitez and Hagler, but not the 2015 version.

    Some of your criticisms of Leonard's record don't hold any weight. Again, Mayweather would not have been able to beat Hearns full stop, so it doesn't matter that Leonard was behind on the cards when he knocked out Hearns. Likewise, the version of Duran that beat Leonard would have few issues beating Mayweather.

    Leonard vs Hagler was a very close bout that could have reasonably been scored either way. Getting the benefit of the doubt from the judges against Hagler is nowhere near as damming as getting the benefit of the doubt against Castillo and Maidana.
     
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  10. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Perhaps they are, but Mayweather dominated his opponents bigtime, while Leonard struggled to win and didn't dominate his. And in the fight with Hagler, he did not deserve the win.

    Pac was indeed past his best in 2015, but so was Floyd.

    And you know that cause ?!?? Are you an Oracle or something ?!
    It's just your opinion that Mayweather wouldn't be able to beat them, not a fact.
    I also favor Hearns over Mayweather, but it's not like it's a guaranteed win.
    And I'm picking Mayweather to frustrate and beat Duran.

    Why not ?! It's the same thing, a mistake is a mistake. And it only applies to the first Castillo fight.
     
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  11. Thread Stealer

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    Leonard from 1979-82 was bigger and a little better than Mayweather.

    I put Floyd very high H2H at lower weights, but less so above 140. And Leonard was not just any WW, he was one of the best ever.
     
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  12. Loudon

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    That’s true. But in a shorter fight, his tactics may have been different. He may have fought him aggressively from the outset. We don’t know.
     
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  13. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    There’ll always be a few exceptions, but it wasn’t the survival of the fittest.
     
  14. scandcb

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    Because Hagler was a far better boxer than Castillo.
     
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  15. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Like I said yesterday, in the unlikelihood that Ray was down on the cards, he’d have fought Floyd aggressively.