Floyd mayweather vs The Welterweight Division

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And as I explained, when Floyd was still fighting regularly, not chasing after big fights and bucks with Oscar and Hatton, these guys were not the fighters with the clout that they are now. Clottey lost to Baldomir, Cotto was a 140lber who handlers had kept him away from Floyd. Which is no different then how Hattons peeps kept him away from Floyd aswell. Would you want your young fighter catching a beating like gatti got? Hell no. Williams was green, and would have lost to Floyd the same way he lost to Quintana. Except we all no these green Williams was still able to outclass a 1 dimensional fighter like Margarito who may I remind you couldnt even beat a B level fighter like Santos.

So explain to me, how were Judah the universally recognized best Welter in the world, and Baldomir the guy who took his straps, not considered top talents at the time Floyd was fighting?

WBO? :rofl:rofl:rofl The most disrespected Belt in boxing. if Margarito couldnt beat a no name like Santos, how was he a challenge to Floyd. Get those sweaty tijuana breeze nuts out your mouth.

Im sorry, you must not have been following boxing the last year or so. Because if you were, you'd know Williams stopped Quintana in the 1st round, stopped a guy at 160 and stopped Vivian Harris at 154. So yeah, I'd say he has improved. Really it just shows how crude and low skilled Margarita is. Couldnt beat a green 24 year old Williams. It just shows that without his size and height advantage over small Welters. He is nothing as a fighter. As he's proved every time he's fought someone his own size (Clottey, Willaims) and guys above his weight class (Santos)

Dont get mad at me because my favorite fighter is supremely skilled, while your hero is a guy who has losses no name fighters on his resume. Sorry, some boxers have real talent that transcends the sport, and some dont. Some are crude no talents.

Has Cotto become a complete boxer? I've seen the same weaknesses in his defense as he had at 140. He got rocked by Corley and Torres at 140. And he's been rocked by Judah, Mosley and Margarito in the same fashion at 147.

Dont blame Mayweather. he wanted to end your boys career. They wouldnt let him.

Williams offered Margarita MORE MONEY DUMBASS! :rofl:rofl



Stop trying to make excuses for your girlfriend running from another Williams outclassing. Fighting old men and puerto Rican midgets. Well done. :yep

i cant help if this generation of Welters all have massive flaws. I'd give a prime Oscar a 50/50 chance of beating Floyd. I'd give Mosley the edge. I'd favor Tito aswell. Its not my fault that this generation have no talent scrubs like Margarita who are only relevant because they weigh the same as super middleweights on fight nights. Its not my fault that the best welter today got beat by a green fighter who doesnt know how to use his height and reach effectively. Its not my fault that Miguel Cotto the so called next best thing has been rocked by B level opposition countless times and was getting chased down by a 39 year old Mosley. Why do you think these old guys are sticking around so long? These guys are bums!

 

I pick Floyd to beat them all

 

Look at this Floyd Nuthugging-Lapdancing fool talking this garbage. Floyd beat two nobodies in Baldi and Zab. They are no way better then Cotto, PW or Margo so dont try to sell it to me. No one believes they are better you lame dick. When your lover Floyd decided to fight hatton and Oscar. PW and Cotto were world champs with unbeaten records. Margo was a top fighter. So dont go saying **** you dont know. Floyd retired because the kitchen got to hot for him. Why is it he fought Hatton instead of the big 3 at ww? Cause he knew he couldnt **** with them. Instead PW fought Margo and Margo and Cotto thru hands. Floyd left with his tail between his skinny legs rather then face his biggest comp at ww. Floyd is a coward and he has fans like you eating his **** and praising his every pathetic move. Margo called him out and offered 8 mil to fight him. His handlers said why would they fight someone who has 5 loses on his record then turns around and fights Baldi who had 9 loses. What crock of **** was that? I dont want to hear that BALDI was the real champ. Everyone knew that Floyd could beat him easy. He should had fought the real comp but he ran like a *****.

 

Zab was nobody? Ring Magazine NUMBER 1, undisputed, lineal ect ect ect world Welter weight super champion Zab Judah was a nobody. :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

When Floyd fought judah, Cotto was not world champ. Hell the only belt he won in the next year was the vacated WBA belt, vacated by Zab Judah. You know nothing, and im not gonna waste any time on your dumbass. :good

 

Actually its even better.

When Judah vacated that WBA belt. Collaz became "the" wba champ because WBA no longer had a super champion.


Hatton beat Collazo and then vacated.

So Cotto picked up a title vacated by Hatton

 

Exactly. Well put! :good How can floyd fan even justified it boggles my mind.

 

At the time which was Nov 2006 those Zab and Baldomir were top ww's. Cotto didnt even have his first fight at ww until Dec 2006. Williams in 06 was where? Marg biggest win at the time was Cintron. Now if you make the comparison you can say they are currently.

When Floyd decided to fight DLH in May 2007 Marg was fighting Paul williams. Cotto was fighting Judah (the same fighter you said was a nobody). Infact Arum never had Cotto v Mayweather or Marg Vs Mayweather in his plans. It was supposed to be Marg vs Cotto that summer, but Marg went ahead with the williams fight.

You dont know why he retired

He fought Hatton because that fight was long overdue from 140 where hatton turned it down. Marg just came off the L to Paul williams. Cotto signed to fight Shane. Paul you might have a case for.

You call yourself a fan yet call a fighter a coward. You are a real fan:roll:

Marg called him out, Yes you are right. But what you dont know is Arum never offered floyd just the 8 mil. It was a package fight deal which included Hatton, Cotto and Marg. Arum said he'd give floyd 8 for Marg,7 for cotto and 7 for Hatton. Floyd asked to get 10 against Hatton and Cotto. Arum refused and Floyd bought out his contract. It was NEVER "here is 8 mil to fight Marg" like Arum tries to make it seem.

They didnt say that.

:-( Again. Fan

 

I am sorry but that Video word for word expresses exactly the way a Floyd doubter feels and thinks about the matter you even know deep down this is the truth, but you lie about it, so my only question is, who do I really hate in this matter?

The one running his mouth lying about being the best fighter that ever lived yet retired when the road looked like it might be a little bumpy?
or
The fans who lie to everybody including themselves becuase they are stupid enough to beleive the lie Floyd told them???

 

Floyd beats them all.

 

And as i explained Margarito was well know as well duck in those time's your gay fake ass hero Mayweather was around he couldn't get any of those big name's to fight so he could be well know outside the boxing world like right now he is thank's to a real warrior with a lot of heart and brave enough to fight someone like Margarito now he is well know unlike your fake ass hero who has ducked every top welterweight out there what a chicken **** :rofl i dont even know why that chicken even has fan's he is a real big shame to all of his fan's and not to mention a shame to th boxing word what a ***** anyway's now that of these champ's and fighter's at 147 are here including to the other one you are alway's sucking his **** in Paul Williams...face it your chick will never fight some of these real fighter's that's why your pissed you are just wishing on a star for your hero to grow some ball's in the other hand he wouldn't even fight Pac who is the smallest of them all lol as for the lost Clottey had with Carlos he was wining that fight in case you didn't know that as for Margarito been outclass by Williams it just prove's what a dumb**** you are.

I dont care about what Zab and Carlos were at that time Margarito would have eating those too on the same night mark my word anyway's your fake hero know's if he get's to fight Margarito or Williams he will lose that's why he will never fight any of those in fact where are those to right now? no where to be found Zab has been KTFO by Cotto something Mayweather couldn't do and also he got a beating from Clottey and wanted out of that fight as for Carlos i wont even go there.

A belt is a belt that doesn't take alway that he was a champ at that time and didn't want any part of him and if you are going to dish that belt you are making Williams look like **** cause that's the belt he has dumb ass atsch and Margarito went up in weight to fight Santos at 154 and almost knock him out in fact i think Santos has a big change's to beat Paul Williams.

I know that Williams stopped Quin in thier secound fight but that doesn't change he got out box and beaten up by a Cotto left over deal with it Quin gave Williams he's first lost:deal a guy who Margarito would have knock him out if they ever fought i dont know what's the deal that he fought a green Williams cause if he was green Maragrito would have stopped that freak in that fight and for those who said that Margarito uses his size well maybe you haven't been watching boxing for so long or something cause he has beaten fighter's his own size oh and Clottey lost to Margarito btw.

Who is even mad about that lol your hero may be much more skill or has more talent but he is 10 boring to watch that's for sure and 10 time's the chicken he is so what's good for all that talent or skill's when he doesn't want to use them against a real top fighter he is just a waste of talent i know deep inside you are crying and praying that your hero come's out to fight any of the top 147 fighter's so he can shut us up but that will never happen he will alway's be mention as the fighter who didn't fought the best from 140 and up.

He has become a much more better boxer than he was at 140 and has much more experience that he use to have and if you didn't know this than you know nothing about Cotto as for weaknesses evey fighter has there own i haven't seen a fighter who has no weaknesses no fighter is perfect son and yeah Zab rock Cotto but didn't he also rock your hero to? in fact that should have been a knock down cause his golve did touch down and you know it.

He wanted to ended who? himself that's why he retire or should i say (i wont let the sport of boxing retire me)what a chicken who stop Mayweather by fighting these fighter's? nobody himself :yep like i told you he will fight Williams later on dont be a dumb and desperate fool and agian you have fail Williams didn't out class him he won a real close fight DUMB ****.

Your hero Mayweather got a SD over a old shot DLH while the smaller great fighter in Pac stopped him something Mayweather couldn't do so no it's not a 50/50 prime for prime fight prime DLH would have beaten Mayweather at 147 even wrost at 154 where he was a real good fighter you are talking **** about the fighter's of this generation this show's what kind of fan you are but who can balme a dumb **** who alway's is on Mayweather di** and have it so far up your ass to your head that you dont even know WTF you are talking about just a waste of time on your ass.

 

I'd favor PTP over Floyd because of his south paw stance, work rate, one punch power, body work, reach, height, and hand speed.

 

Margo gives him trouble because no punch can faze him
PW i would say Quintana showed can be easily outboxed and his chin is not as sturdy as Margos. Some of Quintanas shots were fazing him and i believe PBF hits harder.
Clottey actually could give PBF a hell of a fight. Two defensive masters.
Cotto would also give PBF hell and i would pick him over PBF. Styles.

PBF i believe beats the other for sure.