Floyd Mayweather vs Thomas Hearns - 147

Great post.

Unfortunately, the guy isn’t able to apply the relevant context that is so desperately needed.

He just makes me shake my head.

He’s now comparing overall knockout percentages.

Ha!

I don’t know how he has the audacity to label guys as being morons, when he thinks that Floyd could have had Hearns on giraffe legs like Leonard did.

The guy is absolutely deluded.

His posts don’t contain a single shred of logic.

 

Leonard's KO percentage is higher.

 

All he’s done is gone on Boxrec and seen that Floyd had more stoppages.

If that really tells him that Floyd had more power at WW and JMW than what Ray had, and that he’d have possessed the power to have knocked out Hearns, there’s really no hope for him.

Leonard knocked out Lalonde at SMW-LHW, but Floyd was a bigger puncher because his Boxrec stats are higher?

Ha!

I despair.

 

Were they different defensively? Yes.

Was Mayweather superior defensively to Benitez? Not really, yet Hearns was able to easily outpoint Benitez despite having an injured hand.

Would Mayweather's Philly-Shell style defence cause Hearns specific problems? Again, no. It doesn't work as well against taller opponents with a reach advantage.

So if Leonard and Duran could not out-box Hearns and Hearns had no issues with Benitez's defence why would Mayweather be able to get anything going against Hearns?

 

Great post.

The answer to your question will probably be:

All of those guys lost, whereas Floyd didn’t.

I’ve seen casual fans on social media put up better arguments than what this guy has.

 

The thing that these Mayweather supporters are completely missing and disqualify themselves is that the basis of their argument is Mays best weight was 130 -147 ... anywhere in that range ... and more so that May's hand speed, reflexes, and movement is also the same at 147 as it was at 130 ..... albeit adding years in age , and adding the weight , does not slow you down ..... Its AMAZING that so called " knowledgeable" boxing fans can not grasp this ... A 29 year old , 147 pound Floyd, is going to beat the likes of prime Hearns ,SRL ,and SRR .. which only goes to show that the only thing they really did understand about Mayweather is what he told us , I am the goat, I have the most money, I party the hardest on the vegas strip, I have the most bling , and my crew is 20 deep .... they are so caught up in that hype , they miss his true ranking in the sport historically ... I also am a bit critical of Roy Jones' resume, but thats at 168 only as I felt that he could have fought some better guys ... BUT with that being said he is mentioned all the time and rightfully so as one of the best as in top1 - 3 best at 168, even 160 ..and H2H all time against anyone in history ..... It is amazing that all these Mayweather fans do not have him in their top 5 lists or top 10 lists ... why ?? Surely RJJ is recognized by almost everyone as more of a p4p great than Mayweather at least h2h ....

 

All I keep hearing on the Hearns end is height and reach.

Mayweather was better then Benitez in every aspect...every. To answer the question directed at other posters how is Mayweather going to beat Hearns? Through great defense great footwork and angles. Mayweathers feet were far faster then Benetiz and he used so many more boxing tricks. For most of the fight Benetiz let Hearns corner him. He’s not doing that to Floyd and Floyd’s not staying there. Sure he will have his moments but Floyd’s not standing in front of him like Benetiz did. Floyd’s using feignts far more a better jab and different angles to pick his spots. He’s going to beat Hearns to the punch and escape with his footwork. In a very boring pop and run style. If that doesn’t work Mayweather could always adapt to a more offensive style. I see this as a very close fight that could go either way I just wouldn’t bet on Hearns.

 

You are clueless.

Mayweather was backed up and cornered by Maidana and Castillo. Mayweather often went back in straight lines.

Mayweather isn't going to get any respect from Hearns.

Mayweather isn't beating Hearns to the punch given Hearn's reach advantage and jab.

If Mayweather adapts a more offensive style he gets knocked out because he doesn't have the power or combination punching to stop Hearns in his tracks like Leonard did.

 

Why wouldn't they be mentioned?

They are two of the key reasons why Hearns would beat your hero.

 

It’s not just his height and reach though is it.

He had a laser like left jab.

He had crushing one shot knockout power in his right hand that Floyd would have been extremely wary of.

He had great speed.

Have you watched the Benitez fight?

If Floyd had’ve fought in a very defensive manner, he’d have lost a decision.

To have won the majority of the rounds, he’d have needed to have fought Hearns offensively.

How realistic is it that he’d have fought a prime version of Thomas Hearns offensively?

If he had’ve done, which would have been a HUGE if, how would he have gotten beyond the jab and inside of his range without getting frequently tagged?

Benitez, Leonard and Hill couldn’t outbox Hearns, despite them being great boxers and bigger than Floyd.

Marvin didn’t even try to box with him like how he did against Duran.

Floyd wouldn’t have outboxed Hearns. It’s illogical. And he did nothing in his career to make anyone believe that he’d have fought Hearns offensively with supreme confidence.

We need to be realistic here.

 

Floyd couldn’t have won a decision by using great defence.

Floyd couldn’t have won a decision by adopting a pop and run style.

Try to envisage what you’re saying and then apply logic.

 

AND HAND SPEED !!!!! How are you missing this ?? jesus Gazelle ,, really man ... A 29 year old , 147 pound Mayweather has a big disadvantage here .... against a Hearns and SRL ... This is from SRL's mouth


FASTEST HANDS: Tommy Hearns.
He could hit you cleanly with a lead-off right.


FASTEST FEET: Tommy Hearns
Tommy Hearns again. Surprisingly, Tommy hearns. I had to become a puncher against him.

That is coming from a boxer with FASTER hands than Mayweather at 147 ,, that is not even debatable

 

Rahman knocked out Lennox Lewis.

Rahman was nowhere near as good Mayweather.

Therefore it is moronic to write-off Mayweather's chances against Lewis.

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Was Mayweather prime for Maidana? Nowhere near it. Mayweather never fought anyone he didn’t gain their respect. Highly doubt Hearns would be any different considering his chin isn’t even as good as say Alvarez chin that’s going to trigger some but it’s true.
SRL did a great job using angles and changing styles throughout there fight. I can see Floyd tiring out Hearns in a similar manner considering he was even harder to hit then SRL. Also there hands were about equal in speed let’s not stretch it. Mayweathers feet were faster and his mechanics were better then SRL. He didn’t have SRL power though. So I doubt he stops Tommy.

 

1. No, but he was in his prime for the Castillo fight.

2. Canelo didn't have the same size and reach advantage though did he?

3. Leonard was better offensively than Mayweather. Mayweather rarely threw in combinations like Leonard did. Why are you ignoring this?

4. As someone else already explained to you, Mayweather's style of defence would not be as effective against a taller fighter with a good jab and a good right hand. Why are you also ignoring this?