Floyd Mayweather vs Thomas Hearns - 147

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by xnico, Jun 26, 2021.


Who wins

  1. Mayweather KO

    6 vote(s)
    8.8%
  2. Mayweather Decision

    4 vote(s)
    5.9%
  3. Draw

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Hearns KO

    38 vote(s)
    55.9%
  5. Hearns Decision

    20 vote(s)
    29.4%
  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Name ANYBODY who outboxed Hearns with technical skills.

    We’ll wait.
     
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  2. Zulu King

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    So youre assertion is that because none of Hearns opponents "outboxed" him , it would be impossible to think that Mayweather wouldn't be able to?

    Why doesn't your same logic work the other way. No one ever KOd Mayweather , he never struggled with taller guys with power, so by your same logic it would be impossible for Hearns to do so.

    And between the two of them, at least Mayweather faced more guys with traditional styles like Hearns. May be not on the same level, but he's been in there with a somewhat similar style.

    Hearns never faced an opponent like Mayweather...

    Just curious, are you going to stand up here and suggest that Hearns would mop the floor with Pernell Whitaker also? Does Whitaker also have zero chance to win against Hearns because 'noone can outbox hearns' ? Whitaker has even less 'power' than Floyd and usually doesn't fight 'agressively' either...

    My god, you've probably never even heard of Whitaker have you?
     
  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    This guy is too much.
     
  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    We’re saying that he didn’t possess power at the weight/weights that he’d be fighting Hearns at.

    How many knockouts did he have at WW and JMW?

    The definition of stupid, is not being able to apply context.
     
  5. Zulu King

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    Name ANYBODY who outboxed Hearns with technical skills.

    We’ll wait.[/QUOTE]

    Name any fighter that utilized reach and power to defeat Mayweather
     
  6. DirtyDan

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    You can take the best version of Mayweather, I'd say the one pre 1st retirement from the Ricky Hatton fight and inject his hands full of pain killers and he's still absolutely helpless vs Hearns. It wouldn't be a fair fight.

    At 147 Hearns fought during same day weigh ins where fights were still 15 rounds. Make it modern rules and Hearns has a day and a half to balloon up to whatever he wants and he doesn't have to worry about an extra 3 rounds? It'll be a massacre, I can't see the fight lasting more than 7 rounds. I DO think the fight ends in a knock out, Mayweather is out of his element here. The shoulder roll would be completely neutralized and he would be forced to commit to the philly shell high guard on the outside the entire fight while eating probably the best jab in WW history, followed by one of the best right hands in all of boxing history when Mayweather tries to counter.
     
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  7. scandcb

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    Name any fighter that utilized reach and power to defeat Mayweather[/QUOTE]

    A post-prime ODH used a very slight reach advantage and a 2 inch height advantage to give Mayweather issues with his jab.

    Hearns was taller and rangier than ODH and was more powerful.
     
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  8. Zulu King

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    A post-prime ODH used a very slight reach advantage and a 2 inch height advantage to give Mayweather issues with his jab.

    Hearns was taller and rangier than ODH and was more powerful.[/QUOTE]

    And it took Floyd just a handful of rounds to time his jab and shut him down....
    Wow now you're up here proving MY points ;D.

    I bet you thought ODH was a great win for manny though
     
  9. scandcb

    scandcb Active Member Full Member

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    Yes, because he would be able to that against Hearns wouldn't he?
     
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  10. Zulu King

    Zulu King Member banned Full Member

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    Hey you brought up the De la Hoya fight, not me
     
  11. Young Terror

    Young Terror ★ Griselda ★ Full Member

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    Guys this Zulu Clown is clearly a fanboy and if one thing i know is that its pointless arguing with a fanboy its like playing with Pigs in the mud you end up dirty and the Pigs like it. My advice to you is let the Pig be and stop giving him attention.
     
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  12. Loudon

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    Zulu King,

    Fellow ATG’s who were great technical fighters themselves and who were bigger than Floyd had no success.

    Floyd is 5’8 with a 72” reach.

    Hearns was a great boxer himself, with a great jab, great speed, great timing and accuracy, but who was 6’1 with a huge 78” reach.

    No. It wouldn’t have been possible for Floyd to have outboxed a great boxer of that size.

    Floyd never fought anybody even remotely like Hearns, who had his huge power.

    I don’t think Hearns would have knocked him out. Because realistically, Floyd would have fought defensively in a cautious, low paced technical chess type match up.

    Floyd never fought a guy who even resembled Thomas Hearns.

    He didn’t fight guys exactly like Floyd, but he fought great, technical fighters who were of a similar size.

    Duran, Benitez and Leonard all had great, technical boxing skills.

    No. I’ve never heard of Whittaker.

    Let me just pop on to BoxRec for a moment.

    Ha!


    Pea was a great fighter. But again, you needed strength, size and power to beat Hearns.

    Are you not familiar with his career?

    He beat great boxers, but lost when he was pressured and overpowered.

    He beat Benitez and Duran, but lost to Barkley.

    He beat Hill, but lost to Marvin.

    Surely you know this.


    Pea was a great defensive fighter.

    He was incredibly gifted.

    He’s an ATG who always fought the best. But he was 5’6-5’7, with a small reach.

    Do you honestly think that he could have beaten a man of Hearns’ size on a decision?

    He wouldn’t have had a chance of beating Hearns.

    Start a thread with a poll.
     
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  13. Loudon

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    Zulu King,

    Don’t answer a question with a question.

    Stop deflecting.

    Give me the names.


    Floyd had a reach advantage over almost every one of his opponents.

    Oscar was only one of a handful of fighters who had a bigger reach.

    Hearns was a great technical fighter who would have stood at 6’1 with a 6” reach advantage.


    Floyd NEVER faced a guy who had Hearns’ reach.

    Floyd NEVER faced a guy who had Hearns’ power.

    Which obviously means that Floyd never fought anybody with BOTH of those attributes.
     
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  14. Loudon

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    Zulu King,

    A handful of rounds to shut him down?

    Ha!

    Are you serious?

    It was a very close fight until the last 3 rounds.


    Proving your points?

    What points?


    Floyd barely beat a faded Oscar.

    Yet in your mind, he’d have beaten a prime version of Hearns, who was significantly bigger and better.


    You post on emotion instead of logic.
     
  15. Young Terror

    Young Terror ★ Griselda ★ Full Member

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    Don’t answer a question with a question.

    Stop deflecting.

    Give me the names.


    Floyd had a reach advantage over almost every one of his opponents.

    Oscar was only one of a handful of fighters who had a bigger reach.

    Hearns was a great technical fighter who would have stood at 6’1 with a 6” reach advantage.


    Floyd NEVER faced a guy who had Hearns’ reach.

    Floyd NEVER faced a guy who had Hearns’ power.

    Which obviously means that Floyd never fought anybody with BOTH of those attributes.[/QUOTE]
    Dude what you getting out of this? Seriously its has been estasblished that hes a clown and that this isnt going nowhere so why keep arguing with him.