Floyd Mayweather vs Thomas Hearns - 147

You are the guy who’s been completely ignorant.

Again, you post on emotion rather than logic.

You have been told why Floyd wouldn’t have beaten Hearns at JMW.

Here it is one last time:

He didn’t have the size to have outboxed Hearns, nor the power to have stopped him.

It’s not about hating on Floyd.

It’s about common sense.

You have 2 master technicians:

1 guy is 5’8 with a 72” reach.

1 guy is 6’1 with a 78” reach.

When you have 2 great technical fighters facing off in a chess match, the bigger one is going to prevail.

Although a smaller boxer can beat much bigger inferior boxers/fighters, a smaller boxer can’t outbox a significantly bigger boxer with a similar level of ability.

It’s just logic and common sense.

For Floyd to have beaten Hearns on a decision, he’d have needed to have gotten inside of his 78” reach, he’d have needed to have fought very offensively in order to have won the majority of the rounds, and he’d also have needed to have kept himself out of harms way from Hearns’ arsenal.

Now if you think that all of that was plausible, then please lay it out for us.

 

Floyd was one of the greatest fighters who ever lived. But from Hearns’ perspective, he’d have been fighting against a 5’8 boxer who had zero power.

That means that he could have boxed with him from range, keeping him on the end of his jab, or he could have backed him up by fighting in a more aggressive style, knowing that he possessed huge one shot knockout power which Floyd would have been extremely cautious of.

Hearns would have held all of the cards.

Again, Floyd didn’t have the power to have fought Hearns.

So this could only have gone one way:

It would have been a boxing match.

Not a fight. A boxing match.

If Hearns had’ve fought aggressively and offensively, Floyd would have fought in a very defensive manner.

It has a Hearns U/D written all over it, unless he’d have really gone out of his way to try and made a statement.

Again, Floyd was a master boxer himself. But he couldn’t do something than Leonard, Benitez, Hagler, Duran and Hill couldn’t do.

 

How many more times??

Because the guys who Floyd beat weren’t 6’1 master technicians who possessed a 78” reach.

Please let that sink in.

What the hell does beating Oscar and Manny have to do with anything?

I’m getting really tired of repeating myself here.

Once again, Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran, Marvin Hagler, Wilfredo Benitez and Virgil Hill COULD NOT outbox Thomas Hearns.

So if they couldn’t, how on earth could Floyd have done?

Again, he didn’t have the power to have stopped him.

At 5’8, he didn’t have the size to outbox him.

It doesn’t matter if Floyd beat a faded Miguel Cotto and a faded Oscar at JMW.

They are simply incomparable to Thomas Hearns at JMW.

Completely different stylistic match ups.

It doesn’t matter if Hearns had been knocked out.

Floyd couldn’t have knocked him out.

If you honestly believe that Floyd could have outboxed Hearns at JMW on the grounds that he outboxed Cotto at the weight, you shouldn’t even be commenting on this thread.

 

Zulu----- to sum this up according to Louden( whom i want to disagree in the future] "Hearns has all the cards." . In all honesty Zulu. Wth 1000 in your account..... would you bet Floyd? Enough said...... You would not

 

Bingo!

This guy simply has no understanding of anything.

What on earth does beating Cotto at JMW have in common with fighting a prime version of Hearns at the weight?

Ridiculous.

He’s made countless posts yet has never once taken a step back and considered how they’d have matched up stylistically.

 

Realistically, he’d never have taken the fight. But if he had’ve done, he’d have been in survival mode.

It’s completely unrealistic to think that he’d have fought/boxed Hearns aggressively in an offensive manner.

 

Are you actually serious??


Leonard was smaller than Hearns, but he possessed a lot of firepower.

Leonard was also bigger, stronger and more powerful than Floyd.


Marvin was smaller than Hearns, but he also possessed huge strength and firepower.

Marvin was also bigger, stronger and more powerful than Floyd.


Both of those guys could fight Hearns in a way that Floyd couldn’t.

It’s now got to the stage where I think that you’re just trolling for a joke.


Floyd wouldn’t and couldn’t have stalked Hearns and knocked him out like how Leonard and Hagler did.

Have a word with yourself.

Yes, they may have both been smaller than Hearns, but again, they were both bigger, stronger and more powerful than what Floyd was.


Yes, Floyd beat Corrales.

Diego Corrales was 5’10, with a 70” reach.

He was significantly smaller than Thomas Hearns.

 

It’s getting painful.

 

I’ve never seen Mayweather not be able to adapt. That’s all that really needs to be said. Only kind of fighter to give him a little bit of fits was really fast fighters.

Where is this long list of boxers Mayweather avoided? Am I missing something? You could say Pac but that’s more Pacs fault for abusing roids and refusing a test. Mayweathers been boxing since he was 5 you really think he cares about getting in the ring w someone of a similar weight?

 

1) You have also never seen him box anyone like Hearns, have you?

2) Mayweather was a bigger PED cheat than Pac. Or at least equal. Mayweather never fought any of the greats in their primes. Pac, Mosley, Canelo, ODH, etc were all out of their primes when Mayweather boxed them. Mayweather also ducked Wright and arguably a few others. He would probably **** his pants from Hearns and make up some bull**** excuse not to box him.

 

I never said that Ray was a slugger.

I said that Ray had the firepower that Floyd didn’t possess.

Go and look at who Ray knocked out at the higher weights.

Ray was a master boxer, but a boxer who possessed huge firepower for if/when he needed to fight.

He knocked Hearns out with pressure, power and heart.

He had a shootout.

We both know that Floyd would never have engaged Hearns in a shootout.

The only time that could ever have happened would be on a PS4.

Again, it doesn’t matter if Floyd was unbeaten.

The only thing relevant is how they’d have matched up stylistically.

 

I despair.

I am bringing up Floyd’s height and his style.

Hagler and Leonard were both shorter than Hearns, but again, they had the power, size and strength that Floyd didn’t possess.

This is getting so tiresome.

I’m not saying that someone smaller than Hearns couldn’t beat him.

I am specifically saying that Floyd with his height and style wouldn’t have beaten him.

 

I have no hate or jealousy.

It is just simple logic.

Floyd had no road to victory, simply because he didn’t have the size to have outboxed him, nor the power to have stopped him.

There is nothing even remotely moronic about that statement.

Once again, if you think that Floyd would have won one of the fights on a decision, then kindly put forward a realistic breakdown on how you think that would have happened.

I have asked you to do this on two occasions.

To have won the majority of the rounds in order to have won a decision, Floyd would have had to have boxed Hearns in an offensive manner.

So tell us all how he could have done so.

If you really believe that it could have happened, then tell us all how.

 

When have you seen Floyd fight a guy who was not only bigger in terms of height and reach, but who was also an ATG and in his prime?

It’s easy saying that Floyd always adapted.

Floyd never fought the freak of nature that was a prime Thomas Hearns at JMW.

Adapting against slower fighters, faded fighters and fighters who possessed a smaller reach, means nothing here.

We both know that Floyd didn’t possess the size, power or strength to have stopped Hearns.

We both know that Hearns was never outboxed in his career, and never by a guy of Floyd’s size.

Floyd wasn’t big enough to have outboxed Hearns.

So it’s easy to say that Floyd always adapted, but how would he actually have beaten Hearns?


Regarding Flash’s post, he is 100% correct.

If you look at all of the BS that Floyd pulled throughout his career, there’d be more chance of me winning the lottery, than what they would have been for Floyd to have signed a contract to fight Hearns.

It’s an absolute fantasy.

It’s laughable.

 

Castillo, Oscar and Maidana all caused him huge issues.