Forrest too big, too strong, hits too hard and had a good job. Floyd wouldn't step into the ring with him. Not knocking Floyd but he isn't a Welter.
Floyd is hard to pick against. Vernon was a real good technician who used his height and reach really well. He would make it a very interesting fight. I would still lean towards Floyd, he wouldnt mix up as much as Mosley did and be a little harder for Forrest to hit, plus he's an excellent technician in his own right with a little better defense. I cant see Vernon applying the pressure that ODLH did on Floyd either, so I would pick Mayweather in a interesting tactical good fight.
I dont think he would need to lefty...Given his Forrest's own high level of technical ability and very obvious skills at range I dont think he would need to pressure Floyd like that. I think he can make Floyd come to him and just edge his way forward. Interesting fight...its just Floyd never really impressed at welter. Not compared to what he was capable of at 130-140.
The best boxer Forrest fought was Quartey, both past prime but most had Forrest losing that 1. He out fought, out timed and outboxed Mosley, which made him look like Hearns. But Mayweather is no where near as easy to land on and is far sneakier. Forrest speed, rangyness and jab could be the out doing of FMJ though. I'm going tentatively with Mayweather, if its close with 4 rounds to go he will have the better stamina down the stretch as he's got excellent stamina and closes well in fights
But don't you also agree that Floyd has thrown less and less punches as he moves up? Do you think Floyd would beat Jackson at 154?
Yes because hes too small to exchange, either that or he doesnt want to be hit or his stamina isnt what it was. However Floyd's connect percent is very high, while his opponents is very low, its not always exciting but its mighty effective. Prime Forrest would be his toughest 147lb+ fight alongside DLH and Vernons speed/range/jab would be a tough tough challenge. Another factor is werent Vernon and Floyd friends, this may impact the fight somewhat I'd probably pick Jackson to stop Floyd, like Lefthook31 says its hard to measure because we havent seen Floyd lose and we havent seen enough of him against 154lbers.
Regardless, it will be more competitive than Mayweather's traditional fights- Forrest has the jab, timing, and assertiveness that are key to victory here. He hits hard enough to perturb Floyd too. On their best nights, Forrest takes a close but clear decision.
Interesting matchup. I think Vernon Forest had the height, range and reach to open Mayweather up more than anyone else has been able to. The Jab would be the key for Vernon. Floyd has the ability to overcome Forest`s advantages but he would have to take more chances. Veron could make Floyd uncomfortable and force him to fight when he doesn't want to. Id take Vernon Forest by Decision.
I actually think Floyd is a good sized welter now. Forrest was a massive one regardless, and Floyd would be hard pressed to stop Forrest getting into his rhythm and finding his range, which is the way to beat him.
Agreed. Just don't see the Mayweather shoulder roll being effective against this guy. Far easier for Floyd to matchup with the catchers and face first guys so easy to counter than the tall lanky guys that set things up with jabs. I really like a guy like Breland to win on the cards as well & we aren't even getting to a tall guy like Hearns.