Floyd Mayweather's demise may come by his own hand

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Popshots, Nov 19, 2007.


  1. Popshots

    Popshots Active Member Full Member

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    As a Mayweather, fan it becoming apparent at least in my estimation that he will possibly be a statistic. Forget about Hatton he will be victorious on Dec 8th. In the long run, don't see a fighter mainly being the cause of his defeat, but it will be an accumulation of internal issues and his opponent of course.

    I believe it will be Floyd's potential insecurity that will be the cause of his demise. I'm sure Floyd's relationship with his father etc.. is a major cause of this, but I sometimes wonder if his flashy lifestyle is an indicator of insecurity or simply a man who is enjoying the finer things in life.

    Insecurity can potentially play a role in his demise because as long as he's p4p #1 he will have his corner or people on the street tell him how great he is. My point is, if he is insecure, will he be another fighter who simply doesn't know when to get out of the game and relinquish the spotlight which will put him at risk of inevitable being defeated . Again, I say OF COURSE his opponent if he is every defeat play a role in his loss, but I see him losing as a man who is fighting way past his prime, but I could be wrong.
     
  2. surreal deal

    surreal deal Liverpool via Krypton Full Member

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    very enigmatic and dramatic thread title that.
     
  3. Popshots

    Popshots Active Member Full Member

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    Are you truly that ignorant? I'm not questioning floyd's skills or accomplishments "mate". You apparently didn't read my thread so I won't bother explaining. Maybe if you actually read it, you're questions would have been answered. I never said anything about "fear" as you mentioned. Fear and insecurity in the context that I used it in have distinct definitions.
     
  4. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I think any fighter who stays around long enough will eventually become vulnerable. All fighters decline for various reasons, Drugs, politics, poor training, marital problems. Time however is the only universal downfall of all athletes. No matter how good you are, father time will always catch up to you. Mayweather is 30 years old now, and fluxuating in weight quite a bit. He originally stated after the De la Hoya fight, that he was going to hang em' up. Of course we all laughed when we heard this, and now he's scheduled to fight next month. My opinion on Mayweather is that he should beat Ricky Hatton, then have maybe one more fight in 08', then wisely call it quits. He's already acheived more than he's ever going to, and if he's managed his money as well as he states, then it shouldn't be a problem. The biggest issue for Floyd, is the craving for being in the spotlight. Men like Floyd have always overstayed their welcome in boxing for this very reason. A good alternative for him would be to possibly try a career in acting or something similar.
     
  5. Popshots

    Popshots Active Member Full Member

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    Its not difficult to understand my thread title and as for dramatic, what can I say I love to write and think outside of the box in convincing fashion.
     
  6. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's questionable whether someone who is insecure could last so long at the very peak of the game. Floyd has been dominating for years now, and always comes into the ring in shape and does his job.
     
  7. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well said.
     
  8. Popshots

    Popshots Active Member Full Member

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    My faith in ESB remains, someone that actually reads. I agree that there are various reason why fighters in general fall. As I've stated and as you restated that Floyd loves the spotlight which is his potential downfall. I'm writing this thread because he is the most hated fighter and I don't see him losing to Cotto, etc. If he stays long after his welcome his 0 will vanish.
     
  9. Popshots

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    Oh boy here we go again, Again, I'm not questioning his talent and longevity thus far. He's is proven and is probably the hardest worker in boxing as far a preparing himself for a fight. I'm using insecurity in the definition that he will stay longer then he is supposed to in the fight game because he loves the spotlight and will inevitable lose. I also raised the question in my thread on whether or not he was insecure. There is a possible linkage to insecurity and lingering around in the spotlight well past your time. Did you even read the post? All of this was covered.
     
  10. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Not true...

    your not understanding what hes talking about.

    Hes not saying hes not secure about WINNING. obviously every true champion and warrior (regardless of his style imo mayweather is a true warrior) is secure in those areas...

    that doesnt mean floyd doesnt suffer from extreme internal insecuraties.

    Im not saying he does, im not saying he doesnt.... but the signs are there. When you place people around you like he does, in the manner which he does, which are a bunch of cheerleader types that circle him like planets around the sun.... it could be that, its just his clan and whatever, he feeds off that kind of stuff.... or it could mean something else to the opposite exreme.

    who knows.
     
  11. Popshots

    Popshots Active Member Full Member

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    OH MY GOODNESS another person who actually reads thread on ESB this is a rarity :happy .Its not about agreeing or disagreeing, but thanks for at least understanding my view point.
     
  12. griff

    griff WOODDDDDDDYA Full Member

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    I think Floyd is very insure deep inside but it nevers affects his boxing.
     
  13. sthomas

    sthomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good points Popshots. What I'm hoping for is that Floyd is crazy like a fox. I'm not a Floyd expert by any means, but there seems to be two Floyds. 1) Floyd the performer, bad guy personna, personally created to maximize his exposure revenue potentila. 2) Floyd the guy who seems like a decent man once the stage lights are off, good with his kids, friends etc.

    Most boxers do seem to hang around too long and their competitive nature, and greed, perhaps drives them far too long. Sugar Ray Leonard is a great example. After Haglar, what else did he need to do? The guy was rich, had TV gigs all over the place, and yet he came back. Lennox, on the other hand, seemed to get out @ just the right time.
     
  14. Popshots

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    My original statement mentioned his possible insecurity issues as the eventual downfall of his career. I was simply stating that he surrounded people that boost his ego which is ok for now, but if he dosn't know when to step out of the spotlight (possibly due to insecurity issues) then he will probably be a victim of fighting past his prime and lose. Can you see how this possibly ties up? PBF is a great fighter and I don't see Hatton, Cotto or anyone defeat him in the present moment (possibly giving him a little trouble). This scenerio happens to many fighter, PBF as good as he is, isn't the exception to this foe.
     
  15. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Lol:lol:

    I try my best to read threads thoroughly before responding. In the past though I've been guilty of taking the lazy route.

    At anyrate, this is an interesting topic. You and I both seem to agree that Floyd's ego and need for attention will likely take him into old age in boxing. For Floyd, that time is probably 3 to 4 years away. I don't see finances, or the desire for more world titles being his motivation. Floyd needs to be on the cover of sports illustrated, and have his name anounced over the loud speaker. For men like him, this is a better rush than sex. I don't see Mayweather staying undefeated. Even if he does retire, the temptation to return will be to strong for him to resist. In the end, he will leave boxing the same way Ray Leonard did, only with far less popularity.