Floyd Mayweather's drug testing demands a welcome sight to USADA's Travis Tygart

shane was using something different than the governator, so not sure if it all =s in the end

 

How do you know the effects are gone? I posted articles that say otherwise.

And everything I heard about Shane is that he stays in shape year round. I remember he said this at the Berto kickoff presscon.

Bottom line, Floyd will have to decide whether he wants to fight a known juicer instead of a suspected juicer.

Will he do it?

 

Shane was probably using more advanced stuff than the governator. Steroid tech in the 2000's > steroid tech in the 1970's.

 

Wise words, I have gone through the thread and ur words have fallen on deaf ears. Fans could not care less if their guy cheats as long as he wins and gives them an exciting fight he is considered a warrior, heck an ATG.
Boxing is one of those sport that may never be clean cos the fans dont support it.

 

you article states that you must have high intensity to keep the gains, which I've already spoke to nutritionist who have dealt with steroids who all say the same thing.

When you go off steroids, you are going to take a loss of muscle. It's going to happen.

That article is also referring to something so close to the date of the event.


This is 6+ years were are talking about.

And staying in shape year round is not the same as a high intensity training session year round.


What Mosley took in 03, has no effect on him today.

 

That WSJ article I posted suggests otherwise. Floyd cannot be 100% sure that Mosley, even if he's clean now, is not still unfairly benefiting, just like Floyd was not 100% sure that Manny was unfairly benefiting from steroids (allegedly).

Difference is, Mosley is a proven user, Manny is not.

 

yes, but the affects may be different


arnold was putting on muscle

EPO is more for stamina from my very limited understanding, and i could be wrong


regardless, using an article that talks about 1970s anabolic steroids as proof for the workings of 2k EPO is just full of problems

 

Considering that red blood cells on average take about 4 months to get out of the system.

I am definitely going to believe that Mosley is no longer on the effects of EPO.



And as for the Cream he took, I am going to also believe that he is no longer benefiting from that because he went down in weight, which a muscle building PED would not be helping him.

 

Great article

 

LOL the article had nothing to do with 1970s roids. I brought up 1970s roids, not the article.



Here's another article discussing the same study:

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The research found a disturbing pattern. The men who had stopped taking steroids years in the past, and who no longer even weight-trained, nonetheless had muscle fibers and nucleii comparable to athletes who were currently involved in high-intensity strength training. And, the number of nucleii per muscle fiber was even higher than in the group currently using steroids. These two findings should be enough to give anti-doping activists pause; most sports require a period of suspension for doping allegations. But this research suggests that the advantages of at least some kinds of doping may linger long after the period of suspension. As Dr. Anders Ericksson of Sweden's Umea University describes, "Based on the characteristics between doped and non-doped power lifters, we conclude that a period of anabolic steroid usage is an advantage for a power lifter in competition, even several years after they stop taking a doping drug." Better testing for current drug use may not be sufficient to clean up sports where steroids have historically played a role.

http://www.realjock.com/article/1266/​

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Bottom line, if Floyd reverses his stance and decides to fight someone who he cannot be sure is still unfairly benefiting from steroids, that's balls right there, props to Floyd. The question is, will he really do it?

 

Not talking about EPO, talking about roids.

Roids benefit you in more ways than in bulking you up. I'll bet I can find plenty of posts on here making this same claim from people trying to say Pac is on roids even though he hasn't gone up in weight as much as May.

 

again, i would need to know more about what shane used, not old anabolic steroids

 

but shane took EPO, so, what's your point?

 

We are talking PEDs.

If you are talking about roids, which is something Mosley did not take.

You're whole topic is rather pointless.

 

My point is already stated in my initial post in this thread and in subsequent posts.

Shane may still be unfairly benefiting from his past steroid use, even if he's currently clean. If Floyd abandons his principle of not fighting someone unless he is 100% sure that the fighter does not have any unfair enhancements, then that takes balls. Props to Floyd if he does this, because studies show that Floyd cannot be 100% sure that Shane isn't still benefiting from past steroid use, regardless if Shane is currently clean.