Floyd Mayweather's drug testing demands a welcome sight to USADA's Travis Tygart

Shane admitted that he took the clear, which is an anabolic steroid. Surely you know this.

 

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What do you think roid is? It is a performance enhancing drug. Mosley did take them.

According to Conte's declaration, Mosley came to the BALCO offices shortly before his match against Oscar De La Hoya in the summer of 2003, where Conte, Hudson and BALCO employee Jim Valente met with Mosley. "I explained the benefits of using three illegal performance-enhancing drugs commonly referred to as EPO, The Clear, and The Cream," Conte said in his declaration. "Specifically, I explained to Mr. Mosley and Mr. Hudson that The Clear was an undetectable anabolic steroid and that The Cream contained testosterone and epitestosterone. I explained that The Cream was primarily to be used as a masking agent."

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Talk about clutching at straws...

If there was any solid proof that the benefit of steroids never went out of your system then they wouldn't let professional athletes back into sport instead of giving them a ban over a certain period of time, a test involving 26 people is in no way conclusive and until a proper study is carried out then it is not reliable.

The best we have to go on is if Mosley passes the drug tests requested by Mayweather in the build up to the fight if it happens, unless Mosley gets superstitious/scared of needles/feels weak afterwards and ducks him.

 

Yes but I wasn't focusing on that, I was focusing more on EPO. So I am wrong there but

Because Shane had no need for muscle growth.

6 and half years later his body has stabalized back to where he was without it.

You're article primarily focuses on bodybuilders and power lifting.

While Mosley a boxer who has since moved down in weight.

The chances of Mosley benefiting from the clear 6 and half years later is rather minimal.

 

Who should I believe?

Should I put more weight into a documented scientific study?

Or should I just take your word for it?

 

Thats the way i see it. 2 me I thought boxing fans wouldnt want the cloud of such a thing called steroids hanging over what couldve been a legendary bout.
People have seen the damage it has done to baseball. Does boxing have to get to that point 1st be4 something is done about it?

 

That just shows what a paid-off tool Tygart, and how strong his connection to the Hoya camp is. Little knowledge ? Minimal expenses ? This ****er KNOWS how much Marion Jones and other clients of the Angel Hereida knowledge paid, and how much knowledge had to be in the process to avoid getting detected.

And the USADA itself supports urine testing, and sponsored a method to detect priorly undetectable stuff via cheap, off the mill, industrial urine test packages. It's possible to avoid tests, but that first takes a heck of knowledge in setting up masking agents in a way that the masking agents themselves don't leave the trail, and second, blood testing ALSO does not allow to test everything - and he KNOWS that. It's even the failure of blood testing with scientifically proven industrial level packages because of the small amounts of trails in a small blood sample, that lead to the high effort in developing better urine tests where the metabolic byproducts appear in a concentrated manner, and for a longer period of time.

Plus, fine that he makes such horrendous claims especially about boxing, that it does not require the technique and bodily development up to a certain point, but just a magic, cheap, easily maskable "potent drug" to develop P4P punching power. And funnily, all those boxers who are near the top but not at the top itself are so fine sportsmen, that despite of this cheap, easy and undetectable doping undetectable by the current world-wide testing in boxing, they remain fair and never even do it today! Yeah, right.

 

"A scientific consensus on this issue may be a long way off. The Swedish study was too small to be definitive,.."

 

Steroid cloud? You do realize that urine is what they use for steroid testing? The amount of random urine test that was to be taken would have cleared any boxer of steroid or EPO. The only thing that is unclear on is HGH. To this date the blood test for HGH is iffy at best.

 

Point taken, but which of these has more proof behind it:

1) Pac is on steroids, despite passing every test and never being linked to steroids in any shape form or fashion.

2) Mosley may still be benefiting from past steroid use.


Floyd wouldn't fight Pac because of (1). There is equal if not more evidence that (2) is true than there is that (1) is true. Belief in (1) is what killed the Pac-Floyd fight.

If Floyd changes his convictions and gives fans what they want by ignoring (2), that takes balls, and all props should go to Floyd should he accept the Mosley fight.

 

You don't have to take my word for it, there are plenty of people involved in different sports who are allowed to get back involved once their ban is finished, the fact that they are allowed to get back involved tells you that they are not reading too much into this study as it is no way conclusive based on the size of the test subject group.

Until there's a proper controlled study into the claims then it holds no weight.

 

I dont believe Manny is on anything, the only issue I have with the whole situation is, Manny agreed to take these type of test, then changed his tune. At first he's fine, then he's offended.


Floyd was willing to fight Pac and compromised over and over to get the fight to happen, to say he wouldn't is stupid.

 

Good stuff! Pac will be giving blood for the clottey fight...they gotta test for hiv and all that....he could have gotten 40 million to fight floyd and take a simple drug test..

Another thing im curious is "why wouldn't manny wanna do everything in his power to make sure floyd wasn't on ped either??

 

Which has failed miserably in baseball, which is why I want them to do both blood and urine tests.
Blood tests ae are an effective way to locate any form of PED's. Every athlete in any sport should b subjected to random blood testing, that is the only way to truely know if the athletes we are watching are 100% clean.