Floyd Mayweather's drug testing demands a welcome sight to USADA's Travis Tygart

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  1. K-Man

    K-Man Well-Known Member Full Member

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    THIS IS BULL****.

    How often does it have to be said that blood testing is a heck more difficult than urine testing, because the time window of stuff showing up is much smaller, because the amount of stuff appearing there is much smaller, and because the sample you can take safely has to be much smaller ?

    It's a CHANCE, nothing more. Just because camp May and all their entourage, including Tygart, throw around inaccurate bull**** to make Pac appear worse and May a holy saint of a hero, it doesn't wash away the hard scientific facts that are known in that circles for like 20 years. The USADA itself has sponsored an urine test for HGH, and a method to intensify the findings in urine, which is nearing industrial availability. If they could "safely" and "effectively" test "every" PED in blood, why should they spend millions on urine testing ?

    There is no way to claim that Pac is "clean", he could be on everything you can think of - like EVERY other boxer, runner or football player. However, there is meanwhile a urine method for EVERY known PED, either in study, or in industrial availability. Everything else is Mayweather bull**** injected to the public via their troops and helpers, who have some sort of affiliation.
     
  2. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    The urine test is not what failed. It is the flawed testing system in baseball that failed. It wasn't until 2005 that MLB started random testing including offseason. Since then there has been many players busted for steroid use and those big home run numbers are down.

    Blood testing is no better then urine. If it was such a good testing method then why hasn't anyone been busted for using PED with the blood test and why do WADA list urine for steroid and EPO detection? Blood work doesn't do ****. It is random testing during training and offseason training that will catch a cheat.
     
  3. AFBlues

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    I don't know if professional boxing will ever embrace this Olympic style drug testing especially with the USADA. Too much politics and money involve trying to streamline the current system in place. PBF is in it for the money and wouldn't give a hoot about random drug testing (blood or urine). I'll be curious if PBF decides to fight Shane, and after the fight, would they release how many times blood and urine were drawn before and after the fight between the two fighters? How strict the rules were and how random it was, during training, days leading into the fight, and right after the fight, etc.
     
  4. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Yeah... and I am sure that it has nothing to do with the fact that they make A LOT of money by administering those blood tests.
     
  5. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The urine nanotech testing kit has hit the market, ie it's a kit you can buy for your lab.

    http://www.ceresnano.com/esp.htm


    Good post. Unfortunately it will be overlooked and ignored.
     
  6. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And your credentials are? None.

    Your credible sources are? None.

    Now the USADA is in the Mayweather Entourage? Ignorance.

    Why spend millions on crap testing? Why do dictators have elections? Because it gives an air of legitimacy. No testing would leave everyone in an uproar.

    Troops and helpers stirring up BS? Do you mean people who realize that with masking agents it is more about the PROTOCOL than the testing? Thought so. So far his "troops and helpers" all have credentials, Victor Conte, Dr. Caitlin, and Dr. Tygart.

    Does that make your thread BS? Yes.

    :deal:bbb
     
  7. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    "Dr Tygart", LMAO
     
  8. maryann

    maryann Well-Known Member Full Member

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    floyd has the right to ask or demand for the test BUT he was not right for demanding it directly from his opponent. testing for boxing has its own guidelines set by NSAC since the fight was supposedly to happen in vegas. and that guidelines must be observed unless otherwise revised by NSAC but not floyd. and if floyd was not satisfied with the guidelines that NSAC set, he should have requested from NSAC that additional test and not directly from team pac.
     
  9. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Seriously. PPL backing Tygart and they don't even ****ing know that he's not a doctor. His major is philosophy you numbskulls.
     
  10. K-Man

    K-Man Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Your "credentials" are a) being a 24/7 member of the May fanzine club, b) ignoring facts that you could simply google up, and c) being a 24/7 bullshitter for pure fandom. My only interest in Pac is that he gets thrown at with **** from May bullshitter fans whose IQ resembles that of a rotten tomatoe. THAT makes me aggravated.
     
  11. totsboy

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    they cant detect bullet proof drugs..USADA is too ambitious to detect these drugs
     
  12. sinner78

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    I like this part.
    Boxing doping checks are about as stringent as the WWF wrestling.
     
  13. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    LMAO. Tygart is full of ****. He's saying Mosley would have been caught by USADA. That's complete bull****, lies, and revisionist history. Marion Jones was with Balco along with Mosley and a swarm of other track athletes. Marion Jones and co. passed all of USADA's testing. They beat his shitty company's testing for a longass time.

    Look it up you noobs. Tygart is pissing on boxing along with Mayweather saying all this bull****. He ignores the fact that NSAC follows Wada's urine testing procedure and Wada's banned list.
     
  14. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    All sports should have stringent testing to make sure their athletes don't cheat like PAc, McGuire, Bonds, Shane and many others lol...
     
  15. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    Fuk are you lying AND talking about lol...:nut