Floyd Mayweather's Motion to Dismiss Lawsuit Filed by Manny Pacquiao Denied

Exactly..... Floyd's not stupid although he does a lot of stupid things. Had Floyd really wanted the fight he knows how to get it done. And if he was truly concerned about Manny doping he would have gone about getting him to test in a much more reasonable way.

 

WTF? You can't be serious bro. "TRANSLATION"....You realize that when others speak in a foreign language it doesn't sound like "broken English" when translated right?:rofl Of course PAC didn't say that statement in english....PAC most likely had communicated his thoughts and feelings in his native tongue which was later translated for the american media.

 

Would you sue Floyd and company or would you take the test and beat the **** out of him? Give him a rematch and beat his ass again. What would you do? Just an honest question.

 

Who gives a **** either way? People are getting all pissed about about a ****ing lawsuit, give me a break. If pac wins, well yeeee haa, what the **** does that do for us? If floyd manages to get it dismissed, whhhhoooopdi ****ing doooo, we still don't get ****.

All I want if for floyd to man up and get in the ring, no more, no less. Don't even come at me with that dip**** ost garbage cause I ain't buying it. If pac sucks so bad, has no skills, is one dimensional, and ur the "greatest fighter of all time" u should wipe the floor with his ass even if he shoots up in his corner between rounds. All these "ped" boogie man stories are for morons. Get in the ring or shut the **** up and go away, simple as that.

 

Get real kid.....the way Tyson asked for testing after the fight was in no way shape, form or fashion ANYTHING like what Floyd did. And you know it.

Sure it was negotiated b/c they can't simply impose stipulations on anther fighter that is outside the regulations of the governing body or state athletic commision.

But Tyson didn't start baseless accusations about Holy prior to negotiations....he didn't blast Holy in any media outlets about Holy being a sham, hype and a cheat. Tyson didn't talk his way OUT of the fight and didn't go above and beyond what is reasonable both in his actions leading up to the fight as well as the actual demands for immediate post fight drug testing.

The only reason Tyson and Holy's situation didn't get aired out in the media is b/c Tyson legitimately wanted the fight....Understood the money the fight would generate and had REAL concern about Holy roiding up.

Tyson's actions, unlike Floyd indicates HE WANTED TO FIGHT HOLY but had real concern about Evander taking steriods. The difference between Tyson and Floyd is their TRUE intentions.

Had Floyd REALLY wanted the fight and REALLY had these concerns about PAC being on something, he would have found a LOCIGAL and REASONABLE way to get the fight made where he would also get PAC to take his tests.

Floyd from Jump handled the sitaution as if he was looking for an OUT. And ultimately he got it.......of course it's after PAC has pulled his card and called his bluff and everything ended up caving in on Floyd....but at the end of the day Floyd ain't fighting PAC and that's what Floyd wanted.

And you really feel as though Floyd is coming out of this situation with his **** NOT STINKING? Not even close...Floyd created this entire cluster **** of a situation and now he's the victim of his own creation. Everything Floyd wanted to happen has backfired on him.

Other than getting out of the fight.....>Floyd has really ****ed himself....ROYALLY. His legacy now has less merritt, he's seen as a coward by casual and hard core fans, his reputation as a man and professional isn't worth wipping a pigs ass with it and his life is in all kinds of disarray.

PAC on the other hand has taken over the sport....his personal and professional life is at an all time high. PAC has more credibilty, respect and power than Floyd who's goal was to ultimately be in PAC's position....minus the congressman career.

Honestly D......I don't know how you come up with some of the **** you come up with.

 

I think what people are thinking is if Floyd loses the lawsuit and Paq gets awarded some huge amount Floyd will go broke and be forced to fight. It makes sense when you see how much money he wastes. Floyd doesn't seem like he spends his money wisely.

 

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Actually only Golden Boy's dismissal has been rejected, two others are still pending.

Also, rejection of the dismissal request doesn't really prove anything. It doesn't prove that the statement was presented as fact or did cause harm as you've stated. It's a rejection of the dismissal reason presented by the defendant. That's it. Golden Boy said their comments were protected by the first amendment, and the judge simply disagreed. That in itself does not mean anybody deserves damages or is on track to win, it just means that the judge believes it wasn't protected speech.

In your statement you mentioned what was said was proven false or not proveable true. With a defamation lawsuit the defendant does not have to prove that what they said was true. All they have to prove is that they honestly believed what they said and did not knowingly lie. In fact, they do not even have to prove it - Pac has to prove that they knowingly lied. That will be hard to prove considering he didn't agree to tests. The fact is that these cases are hard to win (even though you say they're not).

I do agree that it will likely settle out of court. Not because either is a guaranteed winner, just because of convenience. It's usually cheaper and easier to settle and move on. If it were to go all the way through trial, legal fees would likely outweigh the judgement.

 

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I'd sue Floyd without hesitation. Especially if he wasn't stepping up to fight me in the ring. Of course I'm playing the role of Manny in this hypothetical situation.

The thing is this........Both men are high profile figures. Both men have earned their positions in boxing and both are considered the 2 best P4P boxers in the sport. So when anther man like Floyd who garners A LOT of media attention on a NATIONAL and semi-GLOBAL level, begins spreading damaging rumors that in turn, has the recipient fielding questions about his character...OF COURSE legal action is the logical course of action.

Floyd has taken a very simple and easy equation like a boxing match and turned it into a very complicated upper level Calc equation by making it into a circus.

 

Okay but Manny is the one who walked away from the fight.

 

The lawsuit is somewhat of ***** move, IMO. Why attempt to do business with someone you are suing? It never made any sense to me.


If/when they renegotiate, Pac should agree to take the test, IMO. They should agree to not do blood testing on the day of the fight, pre-fight, which should satisfy the concerns of both men. Floyd wants random testing up to the day of the fight, while Manny does not want to give blood on the day of the fight (pre-fight).

 

If a fight contract is signed, more than likely the case will be dropped. It will certainly be part of the negotiations.

 

With all due respect 99, I dont think you're fully informed.

......and the rest of the forum can back me up on this....
This issue with Mayweather asking for PED testing was'nt an issue and was'nt made public until news came out that after all sides had agreed on the financial split and only the loose ends needed to be tied up...all of a sudden news came that the fight was in jeapordy of not happening over a Mayweather stipulation (which btw was there from day one of negotiation) had'nt been agreed upon.

Mayweather stipulating he wanted OSDT testing was'nt made public until the fight was on the verge of collapsing over it.

Had Pacquiao accepted right off the bat like Holyfield did with Tyson, this would not have turned into a big deal.


......and btw, Tyson asked for a steroid test after the fight. Back then the boxing commision did'nt test for steroids and athletes from other sports during that time did'nt go through the more advanced tests we have today......so what Tyson asked for the best available test at that time era.


.....as the years have passed, the cheating athletes have learned to get around to passing the tests that Holyfield took, which is why testing labs continously have to update the way they test athletes for PED's.

.....boxing is still administering the same outdated test that they administered since the first day they started testing. Its outdated and a cheating boxer who's eductated on passing it, can do so quite easily.