Floyd "Money" Mayweather once again proves he is the face of Boxing

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MichiganWarrior, Nov 23, 2010.


  1. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Roberto Duran(not pay per view era but perhaps top 10 most popular fighter ever in the USA). Tito Trinidad. Miguel Cotto.

    I dont know of anyone who boycotted the fight. All the Mexicans I knew were buying. Blacks didnt care one way or the other about the wraps. Who was it then boy?

    Nope outsold him in the UK. Check your facts.
     
  2. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In America, yes.

    There isn't one first world nation which has a more xenophobic, insular attitude than America.
     
  3. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How ****ing tiresome.

    Can we have a forum set up outside of boxing that discusses PPV's, who deserves what percentage of the cut, and what excellent businessmen boxers are by being obnoxious wankers.

    Call the forum "**** that nobody apart from the boxers themselves should care about".

    and leave this forum to actually talk about the part of boxing that you know, actually involves boxing.
     
  4. johnnydrama

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    Don't ask him what he "thinks".....b/c a Floyd fanatic will always "think" Floyd is better than anyone at anything at anytime. Plus, that question is really nothing that needs to be asked. it's a given.
     
  5. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Mayweather himself thought he was selling any PPV's over here, he would have asked for some of the PPV money. He didn't receive anything and neither did Pacquiao, because they both realise that they didn't add anything.

    Talking about the UK PPV's is ridiculous. Pacquiao and Mayweather contributed very little.
     
  6. johnnywalkitoff

    johnnywalkitoff Member Full Member

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    Yeah I don't understand why nobody brings this up...such built in promotion: "coming back from retirement" or "this might be his last fight" or "at best, he ain't gonna fight for another year or more"
     
  7. johnnydrama

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    Popularity doesn't always equate to PPV#'s....although Duran probably would have done extremely well in the US if there were PPV's in his day.

    Tito and Miguel are NOT PPV draws like Tyson, DLH, Floyd or Manny kid. Not even close. Tito and Miguel are on Shane Mosely's level.

    White folk and a lot of the GENERAL sporting fans that usually make up a LARGE portion of the PPV's in big events boycotted the fight boy.

    And collectively they grouped US and UK PPV's together and Floyd only outsold PAC in the US and collectively.
     
  8. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    the FARCE of boxing
    with a total of 6 big fights in 5 years

    1) against Judah...coming off to a loss to a guy with 9 losses
    2) against a guy with 9 losses
    3) against a jr welter who is as over hyped as they come
    4) against a 13 year career FEATHERWEIGHT
    5) against a broken down golden boy who would be in the middle of his losing 4 out of last 7 fights

    i suppose the detroit lions are the face of the NFL too huh?
     
  9. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is spot on, too.

    The entire reason Mayweather only fights once a year, is because it's a common law of business. The more you see something, the less value it had. Mayweather compared his own fights to the Superbowl and if there were 3 Superbowl's a year, they wouldn't all bring in the same money they currently do. If Mayweather could fight three times a year and bring in $20m in each of those fights, he would do, but he couldn't maintain it.
     
  10. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Find me proof. Show me what big Pay Per View numbers mosley is done. Dont just randomly quote someone without being willing to provide proof yourself. Thats not debating.

    Name one fight where Mosley drew big numbers outside of DLH. One.

    Uhh I dont know, to promote the fight. What was the point of saying the fight would make 3 million buys. Sorry I need facts and figures before I believe anything out of Shaefers mouth.

    And still doesnt change the fact that Mayweather consistently outsells Pac.



    No proof from you as always. You just say random things.
    Again no proof whatsoever. Shaefer of all people.
    Slightly true. However most everyone who is a fan of boxing bought this fight. And if they werent fans of boxing they didnt care about the wrapping incident anyways.

    :lol:

    Ok ownage time.


    Mayweather vs DLH - 2.4 million
    Mayweather vs Marquez - 1.3 million
    Mayweather vs Hatton - 900,000
    Mayweather vs Mosley - 1.4 million

    6,000,000 buys


    Pacquiao vs DLH - 1.4 million
    Pacquiao vs Hatton - 750,000
    Pacquiao vs Clottey - 700,000
    Pacquiao vs Cotto - 1.3 million
    Pacquiao vs Margarito - 1.15 million

    5,300,000


    So Pacquiaos had 1 more fight yet 700,000 less total buys. :lol:


    I know you'll make some excuses, but thems the facts.
     
  11. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Lol no. Tito and Miguel are far far above Mosley. Both are major attractions. Especially in New York. MOsley wasnt even popular fighting Margarito in LA his home.

    White folks dont make up the majority of the boxing following public. Its Mexicans and blacks boy.

    WTF are you talking about?
     
  12. arsabs

    arsabs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    lets do this. how much PPV does each generated in the last 3 years? how much PPV a year are they making? and please drop the Hoya figure cause its obviously Hoya who is the A side of the show.
     
  13. johnnydrama

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    PAC vs Hatton did 825K in PPVs domestically.

    Floyd vs JMM sold right around 1.1 million in PPVs
     
  14. Jack

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    You're missing the point - We only see, what, 5% of all the numbers involved in a fight? We can talk about the numbers we see, but they aren't necessarily the whole truth. However, if Greenburg considers Mosley a bigger draw, are you seriously arguing against that? The guy isn't just saying it for the sake of it, he's saying it because he has proof, and the proof I'm talking about isn't just one line of a gossip column by someone like Dan Rafael. His proof is based of the pages and pages of Nielsen ratings, breaking down every fighter, in every performance on HBO.

    I can't give you those numbers that Greenburg sees, but if he says it, because he has no agenda, I believe it to be true.
    He said he hoped for 4m buys. Maybe they spent so much on promoting the bout that they actually thought that was realistic?

    There is no reason for him to lie about how much they spent on promoting the bout. If anything, they would say they spent less than they actually did.
    Ross Greenburg is the only proof needed.
    Schaefer would know and has no reason to lie.
    Slightly true? How is it slightly true? Mosley was P4P and people were really hyped about the fight. Margarito had been destroyed, every win in his career was in question and the two fights without wraps, he looked poor. Mosley was 10x the challenger Margarito was.
    I'm not disputing that. Honestly, I don't care who is the bigger draw overall, I'm just talking about Pacquiao's latest fight and disproving your argument.
     
  15. johnnydrama

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    No....Tito and Miguel are NOT far above Shane in PPVs. They are level with one anther. Tito, shane and Cotto are big draws in their own right but they are LEVELS beneath that of DLH, TYSON, Floyd and PAC.

    Boy....you don't know **** about marketing and the buying public. Most PPV's that exceed the million mark are NOT bought by HARDCORE boxing fans who are latinos or black cupcake.

    When there is a big event that is on PPV the marketing for the event and the backing it has generates MASS APPEAL where the buzz alone brings in OUTSIDE buyers that help make the even successful at the highest levels.

    You need to educate yourself boy.....not a good look at all.:verysad