Floyd not accepting 50-50 = An Indisputable, Irrefutable DUCK! Of course it does!

What college did you attend Nancy?

 

So if he said he wouldn't take the tests without cutoff, but is now agreeing.. What makes you think he won't agree to a lesser purse later on, since he ALREADY said he would? :think Floyd has changed his stance WITH a reason stated each time, Pac has stated no reason for his change.

I posted earlier that 50/50 is fair IMO as a boxing fan just wanting the fight to happen. Then asked is it actually a fair deal to Floyd, when you look at both of their business models and how much they bring in each fight?

I do not know the entire ins/out of how much they both make, after everything is said and done with their business models. So I can't honestly say what's fair to both fighters. I also said if you believe it's not fair, please explain why.. And an explanation that includes more than just ppv sales, because it's far more that goes into what they make than ppv sales.

 

so you have to admit that to make this fight, it should always be pac conceding to floyd since floyd always moves the goalpost?

 

Poor Pugi. Does Pacquiao even let you take his picture for all your hard work? :rofl

 

Did Floyd have the same business model back then when they first started talking about fighting? Also, Floyd agreed to a 50/50 back then if I'm not mistaken, so back then it wasn't economics stopping the fight. Had Pac agreed to the testing in the first place, we have no reason to believe Floyd would have changed his purse demand back then as he agreed to it during those negotiations, so economics wasn't truly the only issue.

Floyd believes himself above every other fighter including Pac, and believes certain demands must be met to fight him. Same as Pac, anyone besides Floyd facing him has to accept whatever demands he throws at them.

 

Ok, Manny has said he is willing to take less to make the fight, right?
Based on two hundred million ppv with a 52-48 split favoring Mayweather.

52=104,000,000,,,,,48=96,000,000
Problem solved. Manny and his team would have to be morons to take a 40 mil. flat fee.

 

No. Floyd moved the 'goalpost' closer when he accepted 14 days from his original stance of 30, because he had a REASON to when they showed Pac having blood taken for the Hatton fight. He then moved it to no cutoff when he and Shane did the testing without any cutoff, giving him a reason. He's now moving from 50/50 based off Pac stating he'd take less than 50/50, as well as him stating he did his own research on what Pac makes each fight, giving him reason.

They've both conceded, and if Pac has a REASON Floyd should accept 50/50 like he had a REASON for Floyd to accept 14 days instead of 30, I will admit Floyd should concede.. But as of right now we have Pac stating he'd take less, then changing his mind without any reason, thus I see no reason for Floyd to concede except fans want to see the fight. :thumbsup

 

Whipdatass argued that it was solely about economics. I am arguing against that notion.

And how do we know that if Pac agreed to the drug testing back when Floyd alledgedly was willing to accept a 50/50 split that Floyd wouldn't have just introduced another unexpected demand to stall the negotiation? When you consider that this has been the pattern throughout this entire saga ( Floyd insisting a particular demand and Pac slowly agreeing to it - and then Floyd creating a new demand which abruptly halts a potential deal) is it not sound to assume that this could have been a real possibility?


BTW, I'm not buying that Floyd was ever at any stage really prepared to accept a 50/50 split.

 

Oh, gotcha! :thumbsup

We don't know that, but we have no reason to believe he would either.. Anytime Floyd has changed his mind on something during these negotiations, there's been a documented reason behind it. I don't see Floyd having a documented reason to change the purse splits during first negotiations, so I don't see that happening..

I believe it was in the contract for first negotiations, the contract that was apparently signed by Floyd and not by Pac because of the blood testing.. We have nothing to go off of to try and claim he wouldn't have accepted it in the first place, except wanting to believe that in our own minds.

 

Both of them are a complete disgrace to boxing & will be remembered more for the shameful act of not fighting each other than anything they did do.

End Thread !

 

Pac never said he was weakened by needles.

Regardless, there's a big difference between saying something that makes you look good even if it might not be true, and saying something that makes you sound so ****ing awful people WANT it to be a lie. 100%, Mayweather? Really?

 

:roflatsch

 

He should not be, but the general statement refears to a specifik situation.

This is the second time I have heard Floyd state he wont fight Pac due to health reasons.

 

:deal

...and even when all "ifs" are sufficed, there would be another put on the table. Come on people, he is basically telling you in this interview the risk vs the reward to fight Manny isn't high enough. And this has been his thought process from the beginning.