Floyd or PAC ... who is higher at ATG list as for now?

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  1. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You keep putting up all this running, and pot shotting, but somehow he managed to stop Manfredy, hernandez, and Chavez. He busted up Judah pretty good too, and was on his way to a stoppage before Zab got desparate and hit low.
     
  2. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :rofl
     
  3. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl
    Nahhhh.....you ain't jocking Floyd at all.:lol:
     
  4. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    YOUR POST SHOWS YOU KNOW LITTLE ABOUT FLOYDS CARRER AND YOU PROLLY DONT KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE SPORT NEWBIE...GIVE GOOD OPINIONS BACKED BY SOLID FACTS AND PEOPLE WILL TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY..TILL YOU GET TO RESEARCHING YOUR BOXING HISTORY SHUT YOUR MOUTH AND PLEASE DONT POST...THANKS :good
     
  5. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Overall PAC. His resume has more depth and substance, he's domination is rival to Floyd's. Floyd's dominance is longer where PAC is more one sided in terms of how the fights actually play out. FLoyd is a better boxer, PAC is a better fighter. Floyd is more intelligent, PAC is more ferice, Floyd is more crafty, PAC is more relentless, Floyd is very talented and so is PAC. BOTH are two of the best boxing has seen in the last 25 years or so but ATG status is more about who you beat and how you beat them than how talented or skillful you are. I got PAC based purely on his resume. NO ONE needs to list the accomplishments inside the ring of both men becuase that will only favor PAC.
     
  6. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol: We got extremes on both ends with this PAC vs FLoyd discussion. Floyd is not a runner. He's a purist in terms of his skills and boxing style.
     
  7. ripcity

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  8. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    I disagree about who should be ranked higher and such but I will say that you make a good argument in your case. If the fight were to come down and Floyd won I would have to give it to Floyd over Pac but many fans do say that even if Floyd beat Pac he would still be lower on the atg list cuz Pac has accomplished more.

    I feel Pac is riding his 2 wins (which were spectacular W's) over Hatton and Oscar past the point where it should be. Cotto should stop Pac and I think we will all be talking about how good Cotto is should he do that and Pac will be an afterthought...Floyd's career and accomplishments are better than Pac's career and accomplishments IMO..Floyd has never really had a downside to his career like Pac did...As far as opponents and resume I think Floyd wins here...At 130 he is the GOAT IMO and he has never been beaten...
     
  9. MrPR

    MrPR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    when PBF beats PAC we will see..
     
  10. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pac by a distance. The fact that a flyweight destroys Floyds 2 biggest wins and is the first to fight Cotto, a guy who should have been first on Floyd list speaks volumes.
     
  11. charlievint

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    I favor Floyd's style over PAC's. I'd say Floyd beats PAC 5 outa 6 times. But I still say Floyd's resume is VERY GOOD where floyd is a GREAT boxer. PAC is a GREAT fighter with a Great resume

    If Floyd and PAC fight and Floyd wins....he has a career defining and legacy fighting win. A kind of win that he's never had. His only fight that was close to a PAC win would be against DLH, at DLH's weight class at the time. It wasn't the best DLH, but still a very good one and one that was bigger and stronger.

    PAC may be riding his two recent victories over DLH and Ricky a bit too far, but can you blame him. I mean, PAC is not a legit Jr WW, let alone a full fledge WW. He destroyed TWO guys that had hard competitive fights with the undisputed P4P king last year in Floyd Jr. Sure styles make fights and Floyd had already beaten them but the way PAC went about winning with only a year speration was spectacular.

    I will say this...Cotto is really underestimated her. He's a live dog...I STILL favor PAC but if PAC doesn't take this fight seriously he's a fool. I just think this is a classic match up between a GREAT lil man vs a VERY GOOD Big Man. PAC's talent and dynamics that he presently has work to his advantage. Size is definitely a factor but only for the first half of the fight.

    I can't see how you can say Floyd has a better resume. He's best win was against DLH, JLC or Corales. If DLH was shot for PAC then he was shot for Floyd as well. Corales was a very good win but very inexperienced and pretty green at the time, yet that was a completely dominating performance by Floyd.

    JLC was prime when they faught but think about it??? Who is JLC? Who did he beat other than Corales that is really an elite fighter? I'm not knocking Jose, he's a very good fighter, at one time he was a solid champion, but at one time Gatti was also a solid champion. That don't make him the same kind of figter that Floyd, PAC, Leonard, Hagler, Durand, DLH, MOsely or Jone Jr were.

    PAC beat guys like EM, MAB, JMM, DLH, Hatton coming up in weight. From 106. PAC never had the kind of boxing background that Floyd had, but they both have the same kind of talent. Their styles are just very opposite b/c they come from different beginings.

    They both reached the top of the sport but PAC by far has the deeper resume that will be held in higher regard without a doubt. Anyone can say that PAC beat or shot fighters...and they do, but they said the same thing about Floyd, Leonard, Ali and many others who enjoyed being #1 in their spott. Not just in boxing but in every sport.

    Both Floyd and PAC are great, but if you compare with out being biased PAC's resume holds a lot more wieght than Floyds. Who the better boxer is not the discussion b/c Floyd would win that debate...ATG status should be about resumes. Just b/c you are a better boxer doesn't mean you are or have a better career.
     
  12. KOTF

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    Both of them don't even sniff my top 100.
     
  13. WAYKURAT

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    whatever you say he'll always run especially he knows his opponent can hurt him....& makes you think he is intelligent.....
    boxing will die if every fighter fights like him....boring boring boring
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  14. RJD

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    Name 100 fighters better than them
     
  15. Big T

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    My vote went to PBF for one main reason...well maybe two. 1) PBF hasn't been beat yet, and 2) People forget that he has beaten alot of bigger fighters also. Well hear is number 3) PBF hasn't lost many rounds let alone a fight at this time.