Floyd or PAC ... who is higher at ATG list as for now?

I can't honestly say that (before Hatton/DLH) I can't name any legible opponent outside of Barrera, Morales, and Marquez

 

lol...I am not a huge pac fan as far as pure talent although he is fun to watch but if he is number 2 which is as low as anyone can put him right now of active fighters how the **** is there 19 better since 1984 lol...I am sure u can pull 19 guys out of ur ass but come on the guy is a multi division champ who knocks people the **** out and fight with speed power and courage....he has to be a top 10 guy of the last 25 years

 

I will say this ...i am a PBF nuthugger...the guy is #1 no doubt...his skill level kills pacs ...he dominates his fights...his resume is the same but he has DOMINATED guys that pac would have wars with....but pac did beat ledwaba who was a good champ and JMM twice is huge for a resume, barrera at a decent spot..maybe not prime but still tough is a big win and morales he lost too lol in his prime then he ended his prime which is why I think floyd tools him....the bottom line is we will find out in the ring by either cotto beating him then floyd giving cotto a boxing lesson or pac beating cotto and signing his own death warrant

 

does anyone really think Pac can beat floyd...or pac WILL beat Floyd I should say...that makes floyd better...u can have a poll 2-1 for pac but when they fight PBF will be a 2-1 favorite

 

ha ha ha ... I never looked at it like that - great post!!

 

he never fought B-hop or Roid Jones in their prime. Instead he padded his record in the UK.:deal

but he fought Eubank about a millenia ago...

 

Come on now man ... those guys didn't want to fight Calzaghe until they seen it could benefit them financially. Cazlaghe always wanted the fight ... but they seen it as more risk than reward.

How is Calzaghe any different than Jones and Hopkins? ... I don't think that any form of those guys could ever beat Calzaghe ... and that's not to say that Calzaghe ranks higher than them but his accomplishments and placement in history is justified.

Calzghe is a special fighter ... I can tell you this, you might say those guys are faded or not in their prime but those guys looked like their former selves. They got beat by a better fighter.

 

Calzaghe in my opinion is the greatest Super middleweight in the history of that weight class.

Calzaghe is one of the most confident, hardworking, skillful fighters i'd ever seen. He's truly a special fighter ...

With that said I did favor Jones/Hopkins over him ... he made me a believer !!

This guys could've easily vacated his titles (except for the ring) and defended that against the likes of the guys in the super six and Lucian Bute, that guy who beat Balzsay ... or he could've kept all those straps that are scattered around now and stopped all of those guys from becoming champion and racked up 30 defenses in the process.

 

I do favor Calzaghe over BHOp prime 4 prime but against a prime Jones? No way Calzaghe is a better fighter than Jones and his fight
against him doesn't prove anything.

 

Calzaghe is just as fast ... if not faster ... just as good a boxer (if not better) ... how the hell do you think Roy would ever be able to beat this man. Calzaghe has shown to have the better resolve (can handle adversity well)

Roy hasn't lost much to his fight game at the time, he was still confident, he was still quick and Roy has never been a defensive genius ... they're around the same age and I would have to say that Calzaghe has been in more wars that Jones (who blew most of his opposition out the frame)

 

Pacquiao...

 

I'll respect you opinion but I completely disagree.
I also think you should watch some Jones fights. How can you honestly say that Calzaghe is just as fast or faster than a prime Jones?

 

Thats like me telling you to watch a Calzaghe fight to validate my point ... we seen what happened head to head ... now if you want to favor Jones that fine ... i'll give you a chance to chage anything on Jones (since you think he was faded) and i'll take Calzaghe the way he is ... just let me know something different about Jones that didn't show up during the Calzaghe fight?

And you tell me yourself after taking those things into consideration ... what would have made the outcome different? ...

 

Pacquiao. Hands down.