Floyd Patterson gives Zora Folley a title shot in 1958.

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  1. Eddie Ezzard

    Eddie Ezzard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So unless a boxer is an ATG, he is a 'bum'. You'd have thought someone with your affinity for the ring would have a bit more admiration for 99.9% of the men that comprise the sport.

    You're not an ATG boxer either - sorry to break that news to you. Does that mean you think you are a 'bum' too?
     
  2. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sorry but when Wayne Bethea knocks you down hard, flat on your back, and you take the entire round to recover you arent surviving against Tyson. Folley is being ridiculously overrated by some on here. Did Folley ever beat anyone of Patterson's caliber much less stop them (his only chance against Floyd)? I think not. Patterson would beat Folley. No doubt in my mind. Tyson would slaughter Folley and it wouldnt be competitive.
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm referring to how he conducted himself in the ring.
    Folley was top ten ranked for 9 consecutive years ,for 4 of them he was in the top 3.He deserves more respect.
     
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  4. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fee Fie Fo Fum, I Smell A Dirty Bum, you are correct in your post, he will never be a ATG.
     
  5. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My mother who was a LPN Nurse, took care of Zora Folley after his tragic pool accident at the local hospital in my hometown. She told me that his family loved him very much, they were classy people who were nice and polite. A brain clot took his life, he never regained consciousness. He was a hero in our state.
     
  6. Johnny_B

    Johnny_B Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nope, he can do it on his own. Even 90s one-dimensional Tyson can beat him with ease, let alone a prime Tyson.

    Folley is not among "the good fighters of the past". He's no Charles, Louis, Liston, etc.

    Maybe he would have fought in a war, maybe not.
    He certainly seems to love his kids and wife now. His first wife Robin Givens was a gold digging *****.

    You're confusing Tyson with Ali. Ali was the one who beat his wives and humiliated them publicly.

    But anyway, all these things are completely irrelevant. All that matters is how they perform in the ring, their personal life is completely irrelevant.
     
  7. Johnny_B

    Johnny_B Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Compared to some, more modern ATGs, yes, I am a 'bum' too.
    Folley would get his ass whooped very hard by some of the contenders of the 80s and 90s.
     
  8. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Isn't the troll getting fed a bit too much? Better to just ignore him.
     
  9. Eddie Ezzard

    Eddie Ezzard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You're right, Bokaj. I've tried to point out what a poultice he makes of himself with every post but it falls on deaf ears. It's not very interesting for me, it's not making him any less of a poultice so I shall save my energy for decent, interesting posters instead.

    Now then. Given that I have created some time for myself, who fancies a quick thread on how Rocky Marciano would get on with modern, larger heavies? Has that been done yet?
     
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  10. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, so it is in the public's imagination that Tyson beat Robyn Givens. You are just crazy about him. No man has the right to assault a female no matter what or how she is. So what Tyson did was okay with you? I favor a lot of fighters but harming a female is not okay in my book. Like I have said before, I am not afraid to speak my mind. What did Mike Tyson ever do for you? Did he pay your rent or something?, he was just a man that was short lived.
     
  11. Johnny_B

    Johnny_B Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's not about me being crazy about him, it's about the fact that there is no definitive proof he beat her. He might of yelled at her and been verbally abusive, but I doubt he punched her or anything like that. She'd be dead if he hit her in a fit of rage.

    I never said it is okay.
    But you don't understand the point I was trying to make: even if Tyson had beat her or not, it does not change one bit how good and great of a boxer he was. It does not make him more of a great boxer or less of a great boxer.
    Ali and Mayweather beat their wifes/girlfriends, it does not make them lesser boxers.


    No proof he harmed her.
     
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  12. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He still assaulted her, a real man does not assault women, I hope that is not something you would do. if you did, you are a severely disturbed individual who needs professional help, obviously you approve of his behavior. He was just a flash in the pan novelty. At least Muhammad Ali and Floyd Mayweather were legendary, they did not need someone to hold their hand to be great, Tyson did not last very long as a champion, James Buster Douglas proved he was flawed.
     
  13. Johnny_B

    Johnny_B Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Are you that thick ??!? I do not approve of anything, my point is that someone's personal life is irrelevant, I only judge boxers by what they do in the ring.
    And by the way you phrased it, you seem to approve of what Ali and Mayweather did.
    Tyson was brilliant in his prime, he was no flash in the pan. It's a shame he lost his focus and dedication.
     
  14. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He is still a flash in the pan for his actions too in the ring. Losing his prime at 23, Ha Ha Lol.