Floyd Patterson In The Lightheavyweight Division

Do you even know what a strawman is?

Revising history is to take a loss and decide to consider it a win (one of your specialties btw) because you disagree with three judges — even though you admit it wasn’t egregious enough of a bad decision (in your eyes) to count so bad as to consider the worst of all time. Do you think it was one of the worst you’ve ever seen? I doubt it.

I have no idea why you keep harping on how many rounds of film of it I’ve seen because I have never judged it - my point is that he lost. Period. You can say maybe it could have gone the other way, but he lost. The record supports that. That some did not or do not agree with the decision makes no difference — he damned sure didn’t run him out of the ring, did he? (Compare the same timeline results Maxim had with Archie Moore, which I’ll get to.)

And people in this thread (including yourself) have extrapolated that because he was young when he lost that fight, it’s a given that he would have won had he not been so young. I don’t agree with that line of thinking — he was a full-out professional prizefighter who was in that weight class and the fight counts so we don’t grade on a how-old-was-he scale. (As I’ve mentioned, we can look at how young Tyson was when he WON the heavyweight title and project how dominant he would have been for how long, and a couple years later he’s losing to Buster Douglas. Figure that into your equations.)

As for Archie Moore, I don’t see what heavyweight results have to do with light heavyweight results. Last I checked, Archie Moore at 175 beat Maxim three times in three tries in the time period leading up to Maxim beating Floyd at light heavyweight — pretty easily, in fact.

I happen to think Archie Moore was a greater light heavyweight than heavyweight. History will support me on that. I doubt even you’d argue it. And I happen to think Floyd was a greater heavyweight than light heavyweight. History and Patterson’s resume at 175 support that. So I do not buy that the heavyweight result 2 1/2 years after Floyd lost to Maxim is some kind of de facto proof that Patterson defeats Archie at a lighter weight class at a different point in time.

If you think Floyd would have dominated the light heavyweight division had he stayed there, that’s all well and good. It is no more valid than my opinion that he did not, and my opinion has the fact of his so-so record at 175 to back it up while yours is mere conjecture.