Floyd Patterson in today's heavyweight scene

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Charles White, Apr 16, 2009.


  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Could be, but I stand by my statement.
     
  2. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    If he were fighting today I'd be rooting for him like I did back in his day.
     
  3. SteveO

    SteveO MSW Full Member

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    He'd be pretty damn good, I think.

    I would say that Vitali would bomb him out eventually, but he could give Wlad a run.

    Beat Valuev rather easily.

    Chagaev and Peter would lose to Patterson.

    Haye...not so sure, yet.
     
  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    The Haye fight might give us a few insights here.
     
  5. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

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    IMHO this is an example of the problems pitting fighters in different eras against each other.
    It would be nice if, as another poster mentioned, you could just take them as they are (were) and compare based on that but you really can't.
    The Klitchko comparison?
    Lewis?
    Tyson??
    In many of the youngter's minds on board here all the post-1990 "bad-asses" would wipe the floor with the old guys. Come on!
    You're trying to look at an HBO primed Klit boy vs. a small black&white Floyd or Louis or Dempsey..etc...
    If they had been born, circa 1910-15, and reached prime 30's-40's you're seeing a different creature.
    If Floyd reaches prime in the nineties? Same scenerio...
    A 90's Dempsey would be drastically different than the 20's version...
    I think Marciano is, perhaps, the best example of this different era comparison.
    It goes on and on...
    I do think we can bring some comparisons to the table but, the more I think about it, it may well be something that can't really be argued about with any subjectivity...

    My $0.02
     
  6. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I meant "objectivity" in my above post...:oops:
     
  7. MrMarvel

    MrMarvel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd wouldn't compete at heavyweight today. He would be a top middleweight or light heavyweight, though.
     
  8. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    So am I to understand that if David Haye beats Wladimir Klitschko, your new position will be that every sub 200 Lb man who fought prior to 1960 would have beaten him? ( Not that this would be anything new of course. )

    Oh boy, I can see it coming already.
     
  9. spittle8

    spittle8 Dropping Fisticuffs Full Member

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    He was very impressive, and as Janitor said, it could be interesting against Wlad, but if Wlad reverted to his old punching self Floyd would be troubled. He really is kind of small for the division. He'd make a great cruiserweight today, probably dominate the division.
     
  10. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He may be able to take a title off Valuev...trouble with the Klitschko's but Floyd can be compettive in any era
     
  11. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    At best, Patterson would be a bulky but strong & solid 200 pounder fighting in today's era..... He could compete today since the era is SO WEAK outside of the "K" brothers.... However, he'd have his hands full with just about anyone in the top-5.... Weak division or not, Patterson struggled with lotsa' average dudes from his own era....... He'd struggle today as well.......... Peace.....

    MR.BILL
     
  12. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Yeah, totally ridiculous. Haye is as big as Ali. Patterson never managed to convincingly beat a decently skilled 210lbs man, let alone a skilled 6'6 245lbs one. Wlad would murder him.
     
  13. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I'm not picking Haye to beat Wlad, but if he does, the posts on this forum will sure be interesting in the months that follow. All of a sudden names like Barbados Joe Walcott will be listed as capable of beating Klitschko.
     
  14. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    No kidding. :lol: It's funny how guys like Haye and Povetkin are being called "small" while they're as big as or bigger than Ali, but whenever they accomplish something, it somehow proves how a 180lbs'er would've done the same.
     
  15. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Possibly but I wouldn't find it ridiculous to suggest that Patterson could beat Klitschko if Haye can. In my opinion Haye's chin is every bit as suspect as Patterson's and his combination of speed and power is no greater than Patterson's.

    He is bigger than Patterson for sure but Wladimir still makes him look small. No one is going to beat a Klitschko with size.

    Right now I wouldn't bet on Patterson's chances against the Klitschko brothers. It would be great to see him fight at super middleweight, light heavyweight and cruiserweight though. He could compete as a heavyweight but he would likely come up short against the Klitschko brothers.

    Here's part 1 of a video I made about the fastest boxers of all time:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pazrZZbvi6w
    Highlights of Patterson at 3:20