Jowcol, my dad was a big boxing fan in the 50's up to the mid 60's, after that he kinda lost interest but he had a soft spot for Patterson, I think as much for his well spoken, dignified and humble persona..but he saw the Quarry and Ellis fights with me and after each, he made comment on how "floyd wins the fight, gets screwed over, and then dosen't complain AND congratulates his opponent"...this I agreed with and help shape my opinion of Patterson as well in a way that actually transcended the sport. There was almost a "zen-like"..or even a "priestly" way that Patterson would react to an opponent after a fight...even a fight that was stolen from him..and I don't know....for some reason that's always made an impression on me...because like my dad, I saw those traits of Patterson being even more important than his qualities as a fighter (which were impressive enough anyway)...and being more honorable and manly than any other kind of behavior. Always have been a fan of Patterson...win lose or draw.
As a left field sidebar, and not to hijack this thread or anything..the modern day descendent of Patterson..classwise anyway, would be Manny Pacquiao..who, after being slandered by the degenerate F. Mayweather as a "******" and a "midget"..replied by just saying "let's just laugh it off. He may not have been himself when he said that"......I don't know...Pac's remark just reminded me of Patterson in it's classiness.
I don't watch many fights anymore, save the big ones. The few times I've seen Pac, I got the same impression as you, that he just had a job to do and try his best to keep the anomosity out of the proceedings. Remember the weigh-ins in the old days? Very civil for the most part with both fighters striking a fighting pose towards each other afterwards then shaking hands. Wish we still had that today. :?
I'm with you on that jowcol :goodI miss that...along with the 15 round title limit..introduction of past and current champions in the ring before main events...you know, just the general classiness that boxing used to have...the sport sure has been *******ized in recent years..
The last time I saw that wasn´t that long ago in 2001 before the Hopkins-Trinidad fight. Was a special occasion though.
Yes, and pretty much a relic of bygone days..which in a way, makes me appreciate the ring entrance productions of the Klitschko bros. with their holograms of greats of the past...in proxy, the old tradition is somewhat revived in a modernistic sort of way.
floyd patterson is somebody that im glad to say that i knew. floyd trained my dad in boxing when he was going to college up in new paltz and they had stayed in touch until sometime in the late 90s. definitely one of the most underappreciated heavyweight champs of all and one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet
I know a lot of posters on here slag that off as cheesy but I appreciated the two I've gotten to see them do. Usually the footage I get doesn't include it though. Of the two I've seen, one was just the other day on the ESPN3 Peter/Wlad fight.
Floyd's speed and accuracy were scary. I feel that if he weren't so afraid of Liston, he may have done much better.
Power and Strength > Speed and Accuracy sometimes. When your a menacing beast like Liston, you need the strength and size(Ali) combined WITH the speed and accuracy to be able to handle Sonny. Don't sell Liston short. Liston achieved two great victories. Give Sonny full credit for dominating an ATG champ TWICE.
I'm not selling Liston short. He's legendary. I think he beats Floyd Patterson any day because of Floyd's chin. But Floyd was scared out of his mind and afraid to let his punches go. Liston had trouble catching Floyd because of his bobbing and weaving in the first minute of the fight. Someone like Joe Frazier or Mike Tyson would have been throwing bombs everytime Sonny missed a punch, but Floyd was afraid. Floyd would have survived much longer had he thrown counters everytime Sonny missed a jab or hook.