Floyd Patterson KO5 Archie Moore

It was a great win for floyd, perhaps his best performance. I think floyd matched up better with archie than marciano did. I also think Floyd got a more ruined version of Moore than the more Fresh Moore Marciano fought. Moore took a dreaful beating in the rocko fight, and it took a little out of him.....still a great win for floyd. Archie claimed the floyd fight was "the worst of my career" and archie desperatly wanted a rematch. He went in a 3to 1 favorite. huge upset. floyd knocked the **** out of archie.

 

2nd best to johannsons

3rd best. Charles I and Walcott I were the top.

 

Floyd did darn well there.

If he had lost then everybody would say that Moore beat an overmatched kid that night. It would have been a mark against Pattersons championship.

 

They cant help it right?

 

I think Floyd's win over Archie Moore was a very good feat. Patterson was very young and inexperienced at the time, yet he managed to beat an all time great fighter with more ease than another all time great in Marciano. Yes, Moore was past his prime, but far from washed up as we saw in his future lightheavyweight title run. Patterson scored a great win here.

 

Marciano ruined a lot of guys he probably took more out of Archie than was realised at the time plus he was hardly a youngster was he.Its a tribute to Moore that he still remained able to beat top competition after Rocky defeated him ,most of Rocky's challengers were "damaged goods "after he met them.

 

Doesn't amount to much except for the fact he was Marciano's last victim. Archie didn't really amount to much vs. a superior fighter like Marciano, and I sometimes wonder if Marciano didn't toy with him just a little... just to make Archie look a little better.

 

I don't believe Rocky toyed with him at all. In the rounds where Archie employed his jab I believe he was controlling the action. Marciano seemed to wear him down taking the sting and speed eventually away from the jab and from there Archie had nothing to resist. He was not going to be effective in close...and it was only a matter of time!

 

Idiot.

Rocky was known for carrying fighters.

Gee, never would of figured that. lol:

 

Well, truthfully, their results weren't all that different. Moore's knockdown of Marciano was a pretty superfluous thing, as you can see on the film- Rocky is coming in throwing a punch, is caught at an instance while his center of gravity is off and he's standing on one foot (freeze-frame), is down and up, doesn't wobble, back up or clinch, and wins the rest of the round. Not very significant in my estimation. And although Moore did end up lasting 'till the ninth round in comparison with the fifth against Patterson, note that he was all but knocked out in the sixth, and certainly a good few refs would have stopped the fight before that round was through.

Even still, Patterson does have the marginally better result against Moore. I would consider the Moore fight one of Patterson's top three career-best performances and top three biggest wins. For Marciano, I have a hard time sorting out which performance was "better" than which, but I would say the Moore showing was slightly below his best form, and that it ranks as the third to fifth best win of his career.

 

Oh I don't know that this is such a stretch. Rocky likely knew he would be retiring soon, so why not make a guy look a little better that really had no ability to do any real damage?

I wish Rocky wouldn't have retired as soon as he did. Patterson would have amounted to nothing more than another fight in the W and KO columns for Marciano - of that, there is no doubt :good

 

Rocky never carried or took it easy on a fighter. Not even with his old hero Joe Louis.

Rocky looked less than ideal in the Moore fight. He missed badly many times, and became arm weary at time during the fight. Patterson was better than Moore as a heavyweight, and for my money would have been the hardest and fastest puncher Rocky ever faced.

If Rocky would have hung around a few more years, he would have been ripe for an upset loss. Rocky had some back problems and needed shots to fight. Due to his demanding style, Rocky felt it was wise to reitre when his body no longer enabled him to twist, and bend pain free. It was probably a wise move for Marciano.