Floyd Patterson Versus Anthony Joshua

Also do y'all not remember about how terrified Patterson was before some of his fights and how low his self esteem was? If Patterson saw he had to step into the ring with Joshua he might just turn around and go home lol. I get that you're only brave when you're afraid. Patterson gets an A* for bravery, but there's only so much fear one man can handle before it becomes detrimental to performance and Joshua would instil more fear in Patterson than anyone else.

 

I usually go with the better boxer in these scenarios, and I feel Floyd is so Superior to Joshua that this will make up for the size difference Floyd by unanimous decision

 

Don't necessarily disagree but the heart that Floyd showed in the Quarry and Ellis fights was immense. He was dropped, exhausted, old and still kept boring in, throwing punches and managed to exhaust both Quarry and Ellis with his output.
I think Heart is the aspect that gets questioned the most regarding Joshua these days, and while he put in a good performance recently I don't think his will to win rivaled that of Patterson.

 

Look, I just learned, that Patterson for the Moore fight was 182 pounds. AJ's weight for tha Wlad fight was 250 pounds. Now, let ud do som math. 250 divided with 182 is 1, 373. Now, we make a comparison with another heavyweigt, Muhammad Ali for the second Cooper fight. Ali, then in his prime, was 201,5 in that fight. 201,5 devided with 1,373 is 146,7 pounds. The upper limit in pro boxing for welterweight i 147 pounds. Okay? Now, can you imagine a welterweight champion fighting an Ali from said Cooper fight?? I think that all says anything with no more reason to explain further. Patterson vs AJ? A heavy fighting a welter.

 

Yes, he would. To small, to fragile, Andy, when he was at his best, withstood punches from 245 pound men, and floored them too. Different erea's, sizes and talent.

 

The percentage difference in mass between a prime AJ and a prime Patterson is equal to the percentage difference in mass between a light heavyweight and a lightweight. Stop this nonsense ffs.

If a fight thread was to be made for a lightweight vs a light heavyweight that poster would get temporarily banned lol. But put an 190lbs old timer up against a 260lbs modern heavyweight and all of a sudden people turn both their brains and the laws of physics off to justify the impossible. I thought the Marciano discussions were bad, this one takes the cake.

Also Patterson wasn't some sort of defensive stud so idk wtf you guys are alluding to when you say his "skills" would stop him from getting knocked the **** out.

 

You are absolutely right. Ppl here have fantasy dreams about fighters of the past. And, yes, the Marciano nonsens is out of world in terms of Marcianos so called chances vs a modern heavyweight.

 

You know, old-timers were little and sucked has been pretty much the sum total of your offerings here. Just sayin'. This is the classic forum where we discuss fighters of the past. I for one have absolutely zero interest in the pituitary cases of today, in any sport but especially boxing, and bigger doesn't always mean better. Or more talented. Or classier. Or more appealing/fun/enjoyable to watch.

 

"I don't like modern boxing" was the sum total of your offerings lol. Your argument was even less relevant and even more of a ramble than the person your criticizing for rambling.

That and your personal dislike of modern fighter doesn't mean they lose to people giving up 6-7 inches of height and 60lbs of weight. Patterson isn't even some ATG H2H fighter in his lowest weight class, so this comparison is especially wack. Patterson Vs RJJ of Holyfield would be a better discussion.

 

I was pointing out that this shouldn't be the venue to discuss modern boxing, whether I like it or not.

 

Ruiz isn't 6'2. Lol maybe stop believing everything you read online, Ruiz might be 6'0 tops and he weighed 260 pounds because he is fat. If Ruiz was in shape he would probably be around 220 pounds. I don't think people like you get that. Fighters doing that era came into the ring in shape. Most fighters now days come in the ring way heavier than they should.

In any case Patterson had a pretty bad chin and would most likely beat knocked out by Ruiz.

 

Lol. Thanks for stopping by.

 

Joshua showed plenty of heart getting off the floor to beat Klitschko. He took some clubbing hooks and uppercuts from Ruiz in their 2nd fight and shook off the damage. Even when losing against Usyk and getting hurt, he kept trying to find a way to win.

I think with Joshua he is kind of a hot/cold fighter and can be inconsistent. Floyd always tries, but sometimes his body just couldn't take the punishment. Floyd is one fighter who suffered the most from the lack of a cruiserweight division because he just wasn't built for 220+ heavies.

I think Patterson gives a good account of himself winning a few early rounds and catches Joshua with some good shots with his hand speed, but he eventually gets broken down and stopped. Joshua is simply too big and hits too hard for a guy who has to fight on the front foot and lacks durability. I think there's a lot of old school fighters who have several advantages in technique, ring IQ, speed, etc who might lose to some of their modern counterparts because they're simply too small.

 

If both in prime, I don't give Floyd a chance in hell vs. Andy. Andy is superior in all depts. except good looks. Looks, however, don't win you fights...

 

Spot on, this thread and some of the posts are up there with the most ridiculous things I’ve ever read, I mean there’s nostalgia and old timer bias and then there’s plain stupidity, Floyd Patterson was a chinny 185 pound man with a style that would force him to go towards Joshua, a 250 pound 6ft 6 super heavyweight, the idea of anything other than Patterson getting utterly annihilated, quick, is ridiculous, I refuse to believe these people actually think Patterson would win, they’re deluding themselves. Embarrassing.