Floyd Patterson vs Earnie Shavers

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  1. superman1986

    superman1986 Active Member banned Full Member

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    Both have the dynamite in their gloves to blast the other out. This fight comes down to who gets there first with the most. Patterson was faster and more skilled. Shavers hit appreciably harder but it wouldn't matter if he couldn't catch Patterson first with something big.

    Who would you favor?
     
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  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I would expect Shavers to tag Floyd for a stoppage at some point,but would not be astonished if Floyd landed his kangaroo hook and took Ernie out.
     
  3. Vince Voltage

    Vince Voltage Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Most likely Shavers would overpower him, but Floyd has a live chance in the fight.
     
  4. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As Joe Frazier once said: "Any heavyweight with 2 hands is dangerous".
     
  5. frankwornank

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    Patterson was fast handed but he was not fleet of foot. He could punch and I see this as a toss up fight. Quarry took out Shavers in one round but Patterson was a slow starter so I don't see him catching Shavers early. There in lies the danger for Patterson. Patterson would be vulnerable early. Funny thing how most superbly conditioned fighters are slow starters and the marginally conditioned guys are fast starters.

    This would be very interesting. Floyd was one of my all-time favorites but this one, I find hard to pick.
     
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  6. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Anything is possible. If anything Floyd needs to get in first.
     
  7. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    Pretty 1 sided. Not only did patterson bounce off the canvas more than any other HW champ, its a bad style matchup. Short Swarmer/inside fighter with fast hands and short reach vs stocky boxer puncher/slugger with much longer arms who had dynamite in his hands from round 1-15?

    Sure shavers lacked defense and didnt improve his stamina till late in his career, but he wont really need either. Floyds speed might frustrate him, he has higher ring iq, and he has a punchers chance, but despite all that shavers balls to the wall crazy sledgehammer punches will be like a knife through butter. Patterson did better against similarly sized men, outside fighters, and slow plodders who didnt throw a lot of combinations.
     
  8. TDT

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    Patterson was another class of fighter and he had the power to take out Shavers, too. It would probably go down like the latter two fights with Ingo more often than not, but it could go down like their first fight, too. Out of ten I think Patterson takes seven.
     
  9. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    There is something in this. Floyd above shavers i n skill but his chin ,especially his younger days , could let him down .If shavers could drop Holmes and rattle Ali , then if he tags Floyd right he could win this early. But Floyd can also turn it around , maybe another Quarry type fast KO of shavers. 50/50 on this .
     
  10. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What truly LEGIT "big fighters" did Floyd beat ever beat? I know Oscar B weighed 206 lbs, Chuvalo 208 lbs...any other plus 210 guys? Shavers would probably weigh in around 210 lbs.

    Maybe Charley Powell (fought Ali also) (25-9-3) at fight time for Floyd fight)

    1964-12-12 : Floyd Patterson 197 lbs beat Charlie Powell 213 lbs by KO at 1:21 in round 6 of 10
    "Former heavyweight champion Floyd Patterson knocked out Charley Powell of San Diego at 1:21 of the 6th round Saturday night in a scheduled 10 round fight. Patterson knocked out Powell with a flurry of hard lefts and rights as the climax to a fight which the ex-heavyweight champ fought in textbook style against the towering ex-professional football player. Patterson started Powell's downfall when he sent the Californian to the canvas for a count of nine in the 6th round and then dropped his opponent flat on his back in the middle of the ring with a series of combinations for the kayo." -United Press International
     
  11. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Chuvalo was pretty light for floyd but he was naturally heavier,bigger and stronger than shavers .chuvalo was a 219 pounder with a impresive physique without fat
     
  12. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Yeah, I see it as depending on who can land first. Floyd would do well to utilize his superior defensive skills
     
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  13. juppity

    juppity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Earnie Shavers like all big punchers had a ruthless streak in them .
    Remember Shavers saying he had Ken Norton already beaten before
    they fought. Patterson had a feeble chin and Norton , Golota type
    mental problems with big punchers. Shavers strikes fast and early.
    Shavers ko in 1 .
     
  14. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Well, Patterson arguably only showed any noticeable fear with Liston. Then again, what other big punchers did he face?
     
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  15. juppity

    juppity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cus D' Amato always protected him and he was knocked down 20 x in his career.
     
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