Floyd Patterson vs Primo Carnera

I suppose his chin is suspect, as was his balance. But, I don't know if I'd label him as having a " glass jaw. " Some of the guys you mentioned were pretty vicious hitters, and no matter who he was stopped by, he ordinarily took a hell of a lot of shots before it was all over. For the record, I don't think much of Primo Carnera, but I have a hard time envisioning Floyd Patterson taking him out early, who also by the way had several of his own flaws and weaknesses.

 

Glass jaw would be a bit harsh ,Suspect would be accurate imo.

 

Shows a more honest difference between Vitali and Carnera.

 

Carnera has a near 70% ko record 72 kos in 88 fights ,.Any one think he was a very big hitter ?
Sometimes stats dont tell the full story.

By the way Carnera was 6 foot 5 and 3/4 in, despite what Box rec says.

 

Exactly,

Don Steele had a KO pecentage of 85 percent. Alex Stewart had one of about 75. Competition is pretty much everything. WHO you knock out has as much to do with your actual abilities as HOW MANY knockouts you have. Carnera was a giant in era where he enjoyed a very significant size advantage over many of his opponents, yet still often took many rounds to dispatch his foes. Now, do I think he was a decent hitter? Yes. Was he a puncher of all time great ability? I don't think so..

 

Maybe factor in how many fights were on the square too?

 

Agreed,

but I don't want to start in about accusations of fixed fights, or else certain individuals will appear here asking both of us to present proof of a farse. Two people that I can think of started such a debate about a year ago, and I'm still not certain that its ended...

 

Well he was never put down for a ten count and he fought punchers like Louis, Baer, Lasky etc.

If his chin was suspect then his recuperative powers were not.

 

I wondered when you would show up J.
If Donovan had not rescued him against Baer and Louis he would have been killed .He was hanging on the ropes against the Bomber completely out of it , a big man with big time balls, but a suspect chin , imo.

 

You are being a bit unfair here.

Donovan was not there to rescue Frankie Campbell or Earnie Schaff and they did die. Donovan did not rescue Steve Hamas against Max Schmeling and he was beaten from being a No1 contender to a broken old man.

That is how merciless the rescue process was back then.

 

It would not.

The superheavyweight myth crops up from time to time, only to get brutaly crushed, eg Willard Dempsey, Carnera Baer/Louis.

A generation later people just dismiss the superheavyweight who got beaten as an unco-ordinated oaf.

Myself and other posters have put up film footage based comparisons, showing the similarities between the curent crop of superheavyweights, and their alegedly oafish predecessors.

So far none of the people arguing for this aleged quantum leap in the technological skills of superheavyweights since the 20s/30s have put up any detailed analysis to suport their proposal.