Floyd Patterson vs. Primo Carnera

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  1. mcvey

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  2. mcvey

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    This "booming uppercut" ,apart from the Sharkey fight ,which is viewed with allmost universal scepticism,by boxing writers ,owing to Carnera's "victories"over the likes of Godfrey,Clark ,and Stribling,where might I see it in evidence?
     
  3. Maxmomer

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    I give Carnera full credit for the Sharkey KO. Just for the record.
     
  4. ChrisPontius

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    Exactly what information makes it a fact?
     
  5. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm curious about that, too.
     
  6. biglads

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    Patterson would win this barring a miracle.

    Carnera was a bum. The worst HW champ of the 20th Century.
     
  7. Maxmomer

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    Worse than Spinks? For serious?
     
  8. biglads

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    Spinks didn't have any fixed fights as far as I know. IMO Spinks would wipe the floor with Carnera much as he did with Cooney.
     
  9. mcvey

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    Well you are perfectly entitled to Sharkey went to his grave insisting it was legit,but Primo had 89 fights with 72 kos yet is not in the top hundred punchers of all time ,do you think this tells us something?But I was asking Kenmore where ,aside from the Sharkey fight , I might see this booming uppercut of Primo' s.?
     
  10. mcvey

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    I never call any fighter a bum,having been in the ring I think it takes a degree of courage to engage in boxing,my own percentage was fairly small but Carnera for all his faults had great courage ,imo.He was definitely no bum.
     
  11. biglads

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    OK, I take the 'bum' taunt back as unfair, but he sucked as a fighter.

    With no mob links he gets nowhere near the world title, the best he could have hoped for was an Italian Championship or similar. The guy was strong and brave, but it ended there.
     
  12. Loewe

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    Where´s your prove?
     
  13. biglads

    biglads Climbing the WBO Rankings Full Member

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    There's a good chapter in the book 'Boxing's Hall of Shame' by Thomas Myler (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Boxings-Hall-Shame-Fight-Darkest/dp/1845960815/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1221390690&sr=8-2) that goes into his career.

    Fleischer's 'A Pictorial History of Boxing' barely mentions Carnera, there is more on Young Stribling and Mickey Walker at Heavy than there is about da Preem's Title Reign which is fairly damning.

    His first manager, Leon See claimed that "at least 28 of Primo's fights up to 1930 were fixed".

    Truthfully, there's no-one around that can say for certain how he was managed as all of the participants are dead. Nothing I have read in nearly 30 years of being a boxing fan suggests that his career was legitimate.
     
  14. Loewe

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    You know, while I think he had some fixed fights, I also think that was pretty common then. And I don´t think all of his world class level fights were fixed and he was able to hold his own against those opponents, so he can´t have been that bad.

    I hope Luigi1985 will post in here one day, he knows plenty about Carnera.
     
  15. he grant

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    Carnera was not a championship caliber fighter or even close to one. His career was built on set ups. Over time he became a fairly decent fighter based on his heart, size, strength, conditioning, recooperative powers and jab. At his best he was easy to hit, had poor footwork and very little power. Look at his record post Louis after the mob dropped him. He was still a young man, was a .500 fighter and retired after several bad beatings ...

    Fortunately he found a better life in wrestling, lived a life of celebrity, had a good family life and had a better post boxing life than the game ever gave him ...