Floyd Patterson vs these 80s fighters

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Pinklon Thomas
    Trevor Berbick
    Greg Page
    James Tillis
    Bonecrusher Smith
    Tim Witherspoon

    Could prime Patterson make it through undefeated or does he drop one along the way or does he lose to them all?
     
  2. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    More losses than wins.


    He handles Tillis pretty easy. Smith is another fairly easy win although he probably visits the canvas, but wins the rounds.
    He might do pretty well against witherspoon and that cross armed defense to steal a W. Witherspoon would be the favorite but Tim shows up with his B game a lot.

    Berbick turns it into a mauling physical fight which Floyd isn't winning. Especially if he is fighting with his back on the ropes and/or fighting out of the corner. Page and Thomas box him on the way to decisions.

    The non DKP fighters might be a better match for Floyd. Weaver is very susceptible early to that Patterson handspeed. Coetzee would be a toss up bout but Floyd could out slick him. Probably visits the canvas though.

    Cooney would be interesting, But I think Gerry blasts him out while Floyd is coming in---would like Floyd a whole lot more if he could fight backing up better. Another interesting set of bouts would be Leon Spinks---if he had something left. The version that fought Mercado is not beating Patterson.

    How about a shout for Renaldo Snipes? That junk style of his might just work against Patterson. Snipes' chin keeps him in there ut that sneaky right hand could get the surprise ko.
     
  3. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Obviously loses them all, since this is Patterson and he never wins a match up here. Like McGuigan.
     
  4. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He may have trouble with Pinky and Tim, the rest he wins. Gun to head he beats Pinky but Tims a toss up
     
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  5. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    He certainly does not go undefeated in my opinion .. He is not beating Witherspoon and likely Page as well .. He could decision Tillis .. Smith is hit or miss .. He may also outwork Berbick who was much stronger but a mauler more than a slugger .. much like how Floyd beat Chuvalo and Bonavena .. I can see him outworking Thomas too ...
     
  6. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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  7. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think he beats all of them, but the two wildcards are Tillis and Thomas.

    If Tillis shows up in shape and focused he’d have a good chance at beating Patterson, but unfortunately he rarely did.

    Thomas before he started falling back into his drug habits had the tools to beat Patterson, but I’d still favor Patterson to win, since he was the more consistent fighter and Thomas also had a bad habit of sometimes trying to beat guys at their own game, which would get him destroyed against Patterson.
     
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  8. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Also just kind of a typical I ran out of HW threads so now I'm really reaching much like another poster does on here IMHO
     
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  9. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I always kind of feel bad pickin against Floyd, got a lot of respect for the man. But I see some in the list beating him tbh.
    Witherspoon and Thomas I see doing it, whilst Smith can be big and dangerous. Greg Page is another Fighter at his best that is slightly underestimated. Berbick, could he over power Floyd? Could Tillis out point him? Im not a 100 pcent certain that Floyd beats even half of em to be honest
     
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  10. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Floyd Patterson had good hand speed, fought out of a peek a boo style, and had decent movement. He has tasted the canvas quite a bit in his career, only to keep on fighting, except against Ali, in 1965, Johannson, in 1959, Liston, 1962, and 1963. But he defeated hard hitters like George Chuvalo, 1965, and Oscar Bonavena, 1972. Pinklon Thomas and Greg Page would beat Floyd because of their jab, lateral movement. If Witherspoon shows up in poor condition, Floyd by decision. Patterson takes both Trevor Berbick and James Quick Tillis, by decision. He might have trouble with Bonecrusher Smith, but could possibly beat him, based on Floyd's speed. Floyd had a lot of his problems because he was very light compared to his competition. Also his size did not help his cause. He was a good athlete and man.
     
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  11. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    For Patterson vs Witherspoon, if the best version of Tim shows up, my heart says Patterson but my head says Witherspoon.
     
  12. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    As for Smith, I would probably have picked him over Patterson until I remember that he lost to Marvis Frazier, which I still don't see how he managed that. Due to styles and Smith's punching power, it seems like it would have been an open and shut case.
     
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  13. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Witherspoon shows up like he did for Holmes, and it's 50-50.
    Patterson beats the rest without too many issues imo.
     
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  14. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I can't see Floyd ,(,at his best,) going less than 5-1. Witherspoon is one of those guys you start evaluating with the word ,,potentially.
     
  15. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If it came down to just being in shape to fight Patterson probably would go undeafeated against this group. He probably loses to Witherspoon, Thomas, and Berbick if their in shape . The rest he outworks. But all of them had the ability to beat Patterson if they were in shape.
     
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