Floyd Patterson W 12 Hurricane Jackson I commentary by Rocky Marciano

Marciano wasn't mocking Patterson's power in his next fight. One left hook effectively finished Moore - unlike the dozens of clubbing blows Marciano had to land before he could stop Archie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCUkqyfUjTU

But I guess you didn't continue watching after you got the comment you were looking for.

 

I agree. Marciano was a very good commentator.

 

This was a good entertaining fight with a lot of blows landing but like the Tua v Ibeabuchi fight it was much too frantic for either guy to really set themselves. Sometimes you get two guys who are content to just find enough room to land a punch, any punch, in time before the other man can. A Work rate war. It's not like they are killing each other if you know what you are watching. Guys who can punch just get caught up in it. They kind of know while you are both throwing so many neither one of you will be able to get quite enough steam or room to really do any damage. So they both settle for quantity over quality.


Now I imagine that's how it also was sometimes for your "gigantic sluggers" Nino Valdes and Cleveland Williams found their level. Otherwise how else did Nino and Williams not stop guys like Frankie Daniels and Billy Gilium as well as many others below elite level.

 

Greetings Suzie from your old protagonist (is that right :huh)
It appears that you have (some sort) of vendetta against Floyd, which surprises me in that your a 'Classic' vet.
John Garfield long ago talked about the talent...and weirdness of Jackson (a right and left uppercut?....thrown at the same time? ) What I'm saying, I guess, is that Jackson, with all his weirdness, can't really be positioned into any argument about a fight result.
My $0.02

 

And what fight are we specifically discussing?

 

You guys do realize that Marciano was reading from a script written by Jimmy Breslin for those shows right? He isnt commentating off the cuff.

 

Jackson was smothering him, there was no room for the bolo punch, Patterson used lots of short rights with the bad hand.

With the hand healthy, he had Jackson hurt worse in the rematch than Valdes ever did. Jackson was hurt by Valdes but he wasn't even getting hit during two of those knockdowns, he was getting pushed while reaching wildly.

 

I don't believe it. Next, you'll be saying something crazy like the crowd noise and bell were added during post-production, too. :angel

 

Exactly. The pace and distance they fought at meant both were employing quantity over quality.:good

Jackson was hurt by Valdes. But once two knockdown had been called It was the three knockdown rule that beat him as much as anything.

Bottom line is that Valdes v Jackson does not look like a world class fight. Neither was a world beater. Valdes was quite oafish and Jackson simply raw.

 

This is a ridiculous post. Floyd was in the HW tournament and could have easily drawn lots against Martin or Foster so its not like he avoided those guys. Foreman, Shavers, and Lyle especially came along at a point when Floyd was basically ONLY hunting for a title fight. In fact Patterson retired before Lyle had even had his first big test, losing it to Jerry Quarry. Patterson hardly avoided any of those guys. Given that Floyd was hunting a title shot in the early 70s when Frazier was champion you can hardly say he was avoiding Frazier and weve been over your other pet favorites ad naseum.