Floyd rejects Top Rank's final offer. PAC-Paulie done in one hour.

No disrespect, as you have presented rational arguments here and not just ridiculous flag waving, but why are we supposed to believe you when what many consider to be America's steroid kingpin says otherwise? This guy made a living ducking and dodging tests across a number of sports. What are your credentials, and why should we believe your opinion/analysis?

 

A Link between GBP and USADA ? Do you have a soruce for that or you heard that from a pacman fan !!!

Well if Pacman isn't on anything then he should go ahead and take the test. If hes clean then he shouldn't have a problem with it since Mayweather going through the same thing.My problem is he refusing for a random drug test ! Pacman camp doesnt mind a blood test but doesnt like the whole random blood test !! To me this doesnt make since !!!

 

That dude is so wrong, I dont even know were to start. Testing after the fight would only show that Pac had used the stuff within the last few days. That is a point that many of the experts have agreed on. Its simply not good enough.

 

Even if he's clean (I believe he is), after all this accusations and turmoil, the wise move for his name would be to agree to random testing. Refusing only makes him look like there's something he's afraid of. It's not like someone asked him to climb a mountain before the fight.

PS: From the beginning of his posts, Jaguar wanted to show you that the "king of doping" says different things than you.

 

Source is Arum.:hey

And if you have seen any number of these *******s posts you will find that Arum is the next coming.

I just want to see how highly they think of Arum once he ****s Pac over, like he has been everyone of his other fighters.

 

Arum's interview on Boxing talk:

GL: And this isn't a position your going to bend on, it's just take it or leave it at this point.

BA: "Absolutely. Not particularly when we found out that in his office Schaefer told Ron Nathanielz that Pacquiao was a cheat, that he was taking drugs and so forth. And his dialogue with this creep from the USADA started in September. We have evidence of that, we have all of the inside stuff. This is a whole campaign on his and that creep Oscar's part to smear Pacquiao because he chose us over them. I'll bet you all the money in the world, I don't know this for a fact, but this whole idea was put in their ear by Schaefer."
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GL: If Mayweather and Pacquiao is salvaged, are you disappointed at the black cloud that has already been cast above the promotion? Isn't this a black eye on an event that should have been absolutely positive?

BA: "I think you're absolutely right, but I think our litigation will proceed in any event. Our major litigation is against Golden Boy for the promotional rights of Pacquiao and that's about to go bye-bye."

 

It looks like someone is suing someone, so all this mess can be cleared up if Bob Arum is telling the truth. We'll find out.

 

I think you're just confusing what he's saying. That article isn't put together well and seems to skip around.



Right here Conte explicitly says that blood testing must occur in this case for EPO detection:

In this quote, Conte goes on to explain why EPO would be of much greater benefit to a fighter over HGH:

Now here it gets kind of messy. Anabolic steroids and masking agents like the clear are all detectable via urinalysis. Is he talking about a specific drug here? It seems like he is, but, it also seems like we were only given half a quote. However, we can use deductive reasoning. Conte doesn't believe a boxer should be on HGH. So, we can rule out blood testing for HGH. (it's kind a ridiculous process anyway, since there's never been a positive HGH result in 5 years of testing.) EPO on the other hand, we know Conte believes a fighter should and will use. However, since EPO is beneficial during competition, why would we need random testing for it when a test after the fight will detect it? I don't know, I wish the writer would've given us the full quote.

Now, in this last quote, he's clearly talking about steroids. But, we already know anabolic steroids, not anti-catabolic steroids, such as HGH, are detectable via urine. So, was Conte still talking about blood testing when he brought this up? or, had he moved on to other topics. Your guess is as good as mine, I guess:

 

the thing is why push for a different drug tests, isn't it a mockery of NSAC or other commissions? they've been doing these tests for many years, can we say that many fighters years ago could have cheated their way to greatness because they haven't been tested positive by these bodies? this is b***** if you ask me.

This fight could have been made already if not for the paranoia of Mayweather Sr., he implanted this steroid thingy into his son's mind. If only they accepted the fight and abide by the rules of NSAC regarding drug testing issue like it's being done before, everybody will be happy to see this great event.

 

yep, before Snr was on board things in camp Mayweather were going smoothly.He's paranoid,jealous of uncle Rog and he doesnt respect any other boxer, sadly this seems to be rubbing off on Floyd.
NSAC is a perfectly reputable organisation.

 

Bull****. If Pac's on EPO, he would use it during the fight and it would show up on the sample pulled after the fight.

 

Floyd's clean. he taking the same test:-(

 

He's also the one requesting it. Are you really this stupid, or do you just play ignorant on the internet?

 

Yeah and Floyd could have waited for few hours to wait for Pac but instead accpeted JMM's challenge.

PBF: Marquez called me out so I accepted his challenge.

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Shane: Fight me, a real welter.
PBF: ah, err, oh... you are a great fighter and I respect you. ahh, err, oh...

 

They cant read logic, they can only read bull**** im afraid.