Floyd Says People Won't Give Him Credit For Beating Mosley Because He's Old

The problem with the hanging pants down low regardless of who's doing it is its not mainstream for the audience you're going for. Yes that might be what kids are doing but simply because its mainstream there doesn't mean it will fly in the work place. So if your black and you want to get a respectable job you don't get to act like a thug anymore just like if your Mexican and you want a respectable job you don't get to act like a cholo. People of any race thinking they are being discriminated against because they are not allowed to do things which they identify with some cultural ties, whether correctly or incorrectly, is bull****. Yeah we might want to do something to identify oneself as part of a particular group, but if you are picking things that make the majority of other people uncomfortable or show lack of maturity don't expect to be hired.

 

In a part of Africa there's a proverb that translates as 'if you are born in hole, it takes you a very long time to get tall'.

The effects of generations of institutionalised racism is not going to be overcome in one or two generations. It'll take a much much longer time to remove the effects. The effects are so deep I wonder whether it really can be overcome. I'm talking mindset and mentality.

You are a product of the environment you are born in, and your success or failure depends to a large extent on this environment. Now tell me what environment 1st generation slaves were in, 2nd generation? 3rd generation, 4th generation? Blacks have a deep rooted mindset of being victims because past history has made it so, blacks have a long history of being the oppressed, discriminated against and disadvantaged and this has ******ed their progress.

It takes an exceptional black person to overcome all these effects to get to the top or be successful. Most people are average people and for those people it's virtually an impossibility. No matter how determined you are, you can't be an Usain Bolt. He is exceptional and that's the kind of struggle an average black man has to go through to succeed.

You should read books by Kwame Nkrumah, Marcus Garvey. You should read the book 'Destruction of the Black race'. That should give you an insight into genesis of the current issues with racism and black mentality.

It's not as simple as individual people making excuses. It's the mindset and menatlity of a race and it'll take a revolution led by blacks, within the black race to correct it. The effects of this revolution might not be so pleasant to other races because the status quo benefits them and they'll not give up their advantages without a fight, subtle or blunt.

That said I believe what Floyd says is right but the same will be said for Pac if he beats Mosley. Hell, people are saying DLH was old and shot, Cotto was damaged and Hatton was no good. Whiles there's an element of truth in all the cases(including Mosley) none of that was the fault of Pac or Floyd and the victories are impressive even though they are not great. Barrera was a greater victory for Pac as was Coralles for Floyd.

Blame the promoters, match maker and handlers not the fighters themselves because believe me, none of these fighters are scared of any other fighter who they can logically fight. They are not even sacred of fighters far bigger than them, just realistic about their physical limits.

 

Hockey is a contact sport , basketball is a non contact sport atsch

Floyd is just a dick , plain and simple. Throwing money about like it means nothing when how many millions of Americans live below the povety line ?

Look at Hopkins or Toney they couldnt be any blacker yet they are almost universally loved on here . In fact so is Mosley now I think on it.


Anyhoo mosley is past his best but outside of Pac he is probably the best available. Mayweather will get respect for the win but less than Vernon Forrest did as Forrest beat a better version.

 

They probably won't give Mayweather credit if he wins. Mosley is old and not at his best. So that is possible. Margarito was a good style for Mosley, although Mayweather would have had a hard time beating Margarito. Styles make fights.

 

Hahahahahaha. That goes for any race fool. The color of someones skin doesnt matter if they are an arrogant, egotistical *****. It just rubs people the wrong way. But keep fighting the good fight :good

 

No it doesn't fool, because white players in hockey can act like savages and they get no heat. And showboating mostly only pisses off white people.

 

Hockey may be a contact sport, but its not a combat sport and yet they are allowed to fight violently with virtually reprecussions because the players are white. Football is a contact sport but you see them having fist fights all the time.

A lot of people on here hate Toney too because they think he talks too much **** as well.

What does it matter what Floyd does with HIS money? Nothing, but it pisses a lot of white people off to see Floyd with so much money flaunting it, because they look at him and see what perceive as a "dumb, uneducated, n*****, who didn't even graduate High School with more money they will ever make."

No one ever talks about Floyd's charity work, they just get livid whenever he makes it rain.

 

real hardcore boxing fans and knowledgable experts will, but as far as his haters and critics he wont get credit. there is always an excuse why something he doesnt isnt good enough. What he needs to realize is that if he keeps fighting top-notch guys he will shut them up and wont have to worry about getting credit......The road cement his legacy will be Mosley, Pacquiao, and Berto. Clean out his division and retire undefeated

 

Nah but fighting has always been part of hockey, there are black hockey players who fight and its not a big deal.

You're right its his money and thus upto him what he does with it , but I suggest to you that anyone who walked around tossing money about in peoples face like that would be disliked. There are plenty of rich black athletes who arent disliked the way floyd is.

Y'know I dont doubt America is still a country with huge race issues , regardless of the black president. One needs only look into the penal system to see that to be the case but I really, truly believe that Folyds blackness is not what people object too.

Then again I can speak with certainty only for me , and it aint why I don't like him as a man. Great Boxer but a wank

 

great post

 

The fact that fighting has always been a part of hockey doesn't make it right. Its still criminal behavior that goes unpunished because of the color of the participants. I could say that showboating, and being flashy has long been a part of black athletes, but people will still have hatred towards it.

And the people at the clubs where Mayweather is making it rain aren't the ones complaining. Its the people who see it on tv, and the internet who get mad because like i said they see a "cocky, showoff, uneducated, n****, with no education and all that money to throw around" and it drives them crazy. His actions have no impact on them whatsoever, and yet they hate him becasue they don't like to see black athletes behave like that.

 

Y know the more I think about this the more I'm finding it hard to know if I'm right

Yes you're right being cocky and a showoff has indeed been probably more common amongst black athletes than amongst white.

I was going to say people like an underdog , but I'm white , the majority of the people I know are white , so maybe that is a colour thing. The black psyche is not the white psyche , one is not better than the other but I guess to pretend they are exactly the same is inocrrect.

I suppose one thing to do would be to poll black and white posters on likeing floyd or not and ask any black posters why they dont' like him but to be honest going down that kind of road is not somwhere I want to go.

Mabye you are right maybe those who hate mayweather do so on one level or another on the basis of race , but I really hope not , and if honest it doesn't feel like thats true.

 

I appreciate your honesty. I agree. When i use race in this context, im not speaking of a white supremacy type of hatred, but disdain of a particular culture becasue its different and not understood by those who aren't a part of it. A lot of non african americans don't preceive flashiness, and cockyness, in the same light that black people do.

Its no different then going to another country where they might do things differently (ex: eat with their hands, and eat raw meat...... We might view them as nasty and disgusting for that, but it's their culture, and that doesn't make them bad people, especially since they aren't harming anybody.

 

We've already had a quality discussion about this. If you don't have anything intelligent to contribute then go die.

Preciate it!:hi:

 

Floyd also says that "Size don't mean nuttin'. Then Rugged Man asked him, "Why don't you fight Chad Dawson, then."