Floyd Says People Won't Give Him Credit For Beating Mosley Because He's Old

I don't think that there's any question that if you are a fool you will probably be disliked, the question is whether you will be disliked specifically more because you are of a particular race and whether part of your definition of "a fool" is dependent on how you view different races.

Case in point, there is nothing innately offensive about baggy clothes or letting your pants hang low. Being offended by that is like being offended by someone wearing breeches, or striped socks or clogs. It's purely an issue of how a person chooses to dress and is entirely cultural. But you will see a lot of people saying that someone who dresses that way looks "foolish". Why? Because they associate it with a particular type of black culture, thug culture, that they consider foolish. The argument is circular. They dislike it because "thugs" do it but how they determine whether someone is a thug is based on superficial judgements such as how they dress.

It's a neat way of avoiding saying what they really mean, which is that they just plain don't like or are uncomfortable around most young, american, black people. Likewise there's nothing particularly offensive about someone throwing money around. Sure, it's a bit show-offy, but no more so than riding around in a yacht, or a Lambo, or wearing a 10,000 dollar watch, and many wealthy white people get away with that without a whole lot of invective. It's just flaunting of wealth by a person who people feel doesn't deserve it because of their race or social status that others find offensive.

A lot of people here have some very black and white (pardon the pun) conceptions about racism that allow them to neatly state that racism doesn't exist because this black person right here is doing just fine. It's generally not as simple or as insidious as "white people hate black people, period, end of". If it was that simple it would be a much less thorny problem.

 

^I agree with most of that (nipplefloss, lol) except the fact that you are racist if you are offended by seeing a young man's underwear beacuse his pants are so low. That IS and should be somewhat offensive to just about anyone who doesn't choose to wear their pants the same way. I mean, for christ sake, a fad is one thing but when you are exposing your drawers, here, in America. Well, that's offensive to a lot of people and I can uderstand why. It's like saying '**** you' to our system. It's not enough to get locked up over, yet one step away from being considered indecent exposure...catch what I'm saying?

 

Floyd will definitely get credit but with an asterisk.

Don't worry, boxrec will not have that asterisk in that record.

Just like the first Castillo-Mayweather fight is a win for Mayweather, with no asterisk on boxrec.

 

Probably because I told you to go die. But the great thing about internet forums is that you can express yourself in ways that would be inappropriate elsewhere, especially for someone going into my profession.

Have a great day homie!:good

 

:-( If you knew anything about anything, wearing your pants low originated in prison... and it meant you were somones *****.... Thats why its offensive and weird :yep

If somone dresses a certain way people always make assumptions...
when i see a guy with a bummy white t shirt down to his knees and a bandanna in his back pocket, i automatically asume he is from a bad neigborhood.

When i see a guy with a shaved head, leather jacket, and weird boots.. I think hes a skin head

when i see somone bum with long hair, sandals, and a poncho, i assume hes a hippy

when i see a guy wearing pink stuff, tight jeans, and flip flops, i assume hes gay

ect ect.......

And about flossin your money... there is a classy way to do it, and a stupid way to do it. Opinions may vary, but i personally beleive a candy painted cutlass with 22 inch rims looks ****ing retarted... but to each their own..

And theirs nothing wrong with making assumptions... You would be stupid not to, thats how the human physce naturally works

 

Hopefully SSM gets credit for beating Mayrunner 2 shredds!!

 

I doubt it.

The first excuse you will get is that Floyd is too small to be in 147. He could easily weigh 140.

The next one is that Mosley must be juicing.

Then, Mayweather must have ring rust.

then, he came in unprepared.

There is also styles.

I actually memorized these excuses from reading ESB post.

 

Is that what "They" do? Then you go on to lump all Black people in one giant group? Awesome. See it is educated ignorant asses such as yourself that promote this kind of silliness.

So you bring your brown ass here to America happy to partake in all of the equality that Black folks (and the White Americans who stood with them) earned litigating, marching, getting water hosed, beaten, and dog attacked for and now you feel you like you "succeed on your own"? You ass.

Maybe I should comment on how your mother was lazy and not that smart because she couldn't make it in her own country when thousands of ethnic Chinese seem to do just fine there in business? The "reason you succeeded" had less to do with what you did. It had more to do with your mother moving to America and the civil rights movement. If that wasn't the case why didn't your mother and you escape poverty living in PI? Would I be over simplifying the issue?

Dude cultures have history. Why don't you spend some time actually learning the history before you start spouting your ignorant mouth off.

 

So, are actually personally offended when you see a girl's thong riding up out of the top of her pants? Or plumbers crack? How bout swimsuits? Underwear ads on billboards and the sides of busses?

You're right though, it's considered offensive because it shows a disregard for what we consider to be normal standards of dress and bearing. That's really a lot of the point though. What we did to slaves and the decendents of slaves was effectively cultural genocide. We stamped out their sense of cultural identity. It shouldn't be too surprising that many still aren't keen to up and embrace anglo-european culture whole-heartedly.

We should be glad that low-riding shorts are the form of rebellion and not car-bombs and organized terrorism.

 

1. I'm white. I'm also from the south, and I've seen enough racism, both oblique and open, to know that it's not simply a matter of bootstrapping yourself to success. NO ONE succeeds in a vacuum. You can't create a completely level playing field that's not an excuse to do nothing.

2. Being non-white isn't the same as being a black American. Not a Ghanan, or a Haitian, or a Ugandan, but a black american, a descendant of people who were brought over on slave ships, who grew up with grandparents or parents who lived through Jim crow laws, the Civil Rights act, the Nixon code, the affirmative action backlash, etc...I keep trying to tell people here, but CULTURE MATTERS. If you are an immigrant then you have a rich culture to provide you with mental and moral support, as well as the knowledge that America is a country of immigrants. You have family back home to support you, and a sense of pride and identity that is based in part on where you are from, not just where you are. Black Americans don't have that. They just have a country that they live in, but has never been theirs, where they are treated like outsiders and where they were legally classified as less than full people up until the very recent past, and where they still struggle against the same stereotypes that were aimed at them 400 years ago...that they are lazy, stupid and savage.

Anyway, these Horatio Alger bootstrap stories are the stupidest ****ing things. There's a reason the wealthiest people in this particular country are all old white men, and it isn't because old white men work harder than latinos, or asians, or blacks, or whatever...it's because history matters.

 

And handshakes originated as a gesture to show that you are unarmed. Origin =/= meaning.

 

so whats the meaning of a dudes ass hanging out of his pants?? seriously???
id like to know

 

Solid analysis. :deal

 

I think you were right in that it started in prison. It wasn't because you were someone's "*****" though. It was because in prison there are no belts. So everyone "sags" their pants. Enough dudes in a particular area get locked up? It becomes fashionable.

The current meaning? It is 100% style and has nothing to do with its roots. Same reason why guys who have never gone to the ocean wear "board" shorts. Still one group is assumed to be criminal.

 

That is because one group stylizes themselves after criminals. Now is it fair to catagorize them as such that is up to interpretation, but the fact of the matter is they are presenting themselves as such. And its not like its just blacks that get painted into this corner with the sagging thug style, you dress like any group and you are going to get treated like a member of that group ie look at Cholos. Simply because something becomes mainstream doesn't mean it has completely separated itself from its roots. So the sagging is still somewhat tied to prison style. Thus when you dress like that you get labeled a thug or criminal and it has nothing to do with being black so I don't see why anyone should get a pass to dress like that without being judged. Just like someone said before you dress a certain way and people will treat you that way and it takes a shitload of effort to make people stop treating you that way as an individual, as a group the change will most likely never come.