Floyd Says People Won't Give Him Credit For Beating Mosley Because He's Old

See this is typical America. You are blind to the policy decisions made that paint a group into a corner then you blame the group that was painted into the corner. Look up mandatory minimums and sentencing disparity. You tell me why certain things proliferate in certain communities.

I also accept that it isn't just Blacks. It is also young Hispanic males. It is even beginning to be Asian males. The fact however is that MINORITY youth counter culture is disproportionately associated with crime.

Now here is where I call BS on two of your points. One, "one group stylizes itself after criminals". Wrong. A person stylizes themselves after "cool" people in their neighborhood. This is not a conscious decision. All the guys in your area wear baggy pants you don't say, "I want to look like a criminal!" You say, "I want to fit in." White skater kids sag all of the time, but they are not associated directly with criminality.

Second, "it hasn't completely separated itself from its roots". Really? Fashion has nothing to do with its roots. It is just that, fashion. No more. No less. White folks are wearing "blinged" or "iced" out jewelry all of the time now. They don't seem to be getting associated with the street culture that originated the fashion? Why? They are White. Now if a rich Black man walks in with the same piece of jewelry? Here come the negative connotations.

I don't mean this to pit Black against White. I am saying that there are biases in American society. True, you can't use them as a crutch. You also have to accept that they do exist and compromise accordingly. But to act as though they don't exist or are somehow "rational" is foolish.

 

No I haven't, but I watch international news and I constantly see them rich, in power, and sometimes even running a country where they are a minority. I can draw a bunch of hair brained conclusions as you do or choose to be quiet. So to your point about me which confirms my point, you obviously don't seem to know anything about how and why American society is set up the way it is.

Yes America has opportunities that people before you of all colors fought and worked hard for. Luckily for you, your family arrived late and did not have to deal with the structural racism and emotional baggage of the past. (You probably live on the West Coast too.)

Who is making excuses for failure? FMJ? Seems pretty accomplished if you ask me. He is making a statement on how his success is perceived not making an excuse for failure. Oh you mean "The Blacks"? Right...

It is just you and your warped understanding of American history. And like the ignorant person you are, you don't know about the past that is why you can't understand the present.

To give you a better guage on the situation... America has been "equal" sincd 1968. That is 42 years. Did you happen to plop here in that window?

http://www.infoplease.com/spot/civilrightstimeline1.html

I wouldn't call you a racist. I would call you a simpleton. If you can't see the connection between slavery, people being sold like cattle, it being illegal to educate a Black person, rampant racial discrimination in education, banking, wages, and job opportunities, purposed injection of drugs in communities, dispraportionate law enforcement and prison sentencing, deliberate underfunding of schools, and poverty today? Yes, my friend you are a simpleton. To call you a racist would give you too much credit.

 

This is the type of racist steretyping that I'm talking about. Assuming that all black people complaining are running around sagging, and acting like criminals. As if white kids in the suburbs aren't imitating the exact same behavior.

You choose to ignore all of the black lawyers, doctors, engineers, college professors etc.... the same hardworking and educated professionals who still face racial profiling, and harassament. Like Harvard professor Louis Gates who was arretsed at his own home for nothing. Charges were dropped. Just recently a black man in here in an affluent Houston suburb (Bellaire) was murdered in own driveway by police who wrongfully believed him to be driving a stolen car. (Who steals a car and drives it to their driveway?)

But ignorant people like you ( and i don't mean that disparagingly) choose to continue to justify racism, discrimination, and hatred on falsehoods such as claiming that it becasue black people "act and dress like criminals".

I guess everytime a white person committs an atrocity, or shoots up a school the whole race should be stereotyped?? But i don't endorse that type of stereotypical bigotry. Every person represents him or herself and thats it.

Have a good one homie!

 

I feel the need to clarify my statement because of this I wasn't specifically talking about all blacks. I was referring only to Balds statement about one group where a number of people were dressing one way because those around them dressed that way because they were used to the prison life. I completely agree that what happened to the Harvard professor was beyond ridiculous, though I more saw a cop on a power trip then a racist cop, but I can see it both ways. So yes racism is horrible and there are many people who are undeservingly characterised. I also say though that if you choose to stylize yourself like a thug regardless of where you grew up then expected to be treated like a thug. If your not dressing/acting like a thug and you are treated that way you have every right to be upset and I stand right behind you when you do it, but you don't get to play it both ways if you act like a thug or a cholo or anything else you will be treated that way.

 

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How exactly do you act like a thug? Either u are or else your not. More importantly, who gets to decides what's the proper way to dress an act.

Its just like the NBA dress code. They didn't lilke urban african american style, so they implemented a new dress code that target african americans. Why? Becasue white people don't like that kind of attire.

 

Floyd will get a lot of respect if he goes up to 154lbs and fight Martinez or PW.

 

I think what I said was misunderstood. I am saying if a kid is 10 and he sees guys in his neighborhood wearing clothes a certain way he is not making a conscious decision "look criminal". He is a kid expressing fashion sense. How you choose to interpret it is YOUR problem.

On the flip side, I think you are being disingenuous. Do you really think a person who is making a prejudiced character assumption knows or cares enough about urban style to know the differences? No. Do you think this biased assumption stops at clothing? No. You are using superficial BS to justify prejudice.

IMHO it is obvious. A guy is poor, but has pride in his look. He can afford nice white t-shirts and a clean pair of dickies. They are not expensive so he expresses his pride by staying clean and pressing them precisely. This shows class and style in his neighborhood and is appreciated in his peer group. He isn't involved with any BS, but in your eyes he would be "dressing like a cholo" and "deserve how he is treated".

The truth is that you feel minorities need to be acceptable to YOU. It isn't about their character because your judgments are made long before you see it. I don't knock America for it because everywhere I go in the world people are small minded in this way. It is just a little more personal here.

 

You know the answer to that question... White folks get to decide what is acceptable! (Or the society majority)

I remember growing up that big rims were "ghetto". Now you can get them from the dealership. It stopped being "ghetto" when They accepted it.

Just like the cops ticket you for or take your "ghetto" stereo, but They can get a glass pack muffler or a Harley that can be heard for miles. It is only noise pollution if it is YOUR noise.

It is the little racist slights like that which are ignored. It is America and her nuance. It is still a beautiful country full of beautiful people. We just have to be honest with ourselves.

 

Lol! Of course I do. Which goes back to my original statement that black athletes get hated on if they behave in a way that doesn't conform to the way that white people think that they should.

 

you seem like a smart enough guy. why does everything that doesnt flow with how blacks like to do it, automaticaly become a knock on black people. maybe stern wanted a more professional image for the league. you got to admit that every other nba player was trying to put out a gangster rap cd. im sure that is not the image the nba wants to be associated with. is that so hard to understand and agree to? is it that unreasonable of a request? and why cant a guy look professional and still be black.
i admit that i am sometimes overly critical of some things but i am not an unreasonable man. you do however have to convince me im wrong using reason. a lot of the conections you make dont have anything to do with being black or about blacks. try looking at things from the perspective of a member of society trying to build a system of interaction between different members of same society. you cant be a child and stubbornly insist that all your habits be excused because its cool with your 10% of the members. what about the other 90% of the members. for example, i believe the rebel flag is offensive to blacks so i dont think it should fly in public buildings. im sure there is a lot of southerners who would tell me to **** off because its part of their heritage. that may be so but it does not help to build the type of society i want to leave for my children.
you keep harping on how everything comes down to how white people think an athlete should act. i would like to know from asian, hispanics and others, if being an arrogant disrespectful athlete is looked on with approval in your culture. is humility and respect only cool in white america? if it isnt, why should the rest of society hand out the free pass. because he descends from a slave?
give me some reasonable explaination of why the majority should cater to the minority when the issue isnt even about race.

 

You said every other NBA player wanted to put out a "gangsta rap cd""??? Really?? Name 5.

As for the image of the league, if it was law firm or some type of corporate environment then of course the suit and tie would be completely rational. A suti and tie is pretty much a requirement for the profession Im going into.

But the NBA is a sport wear the attire consist of sleevleess jerseys, shorts , and tennis shoes so the notion that they need a suit to look professional is ridiculous. There is no research or statistics that show that the new dress code is going to greatly improve their brand. Tthere was no outcry from the public to change the dress code. Noboyd gives a damn about the player's on the bench, or what they where to the arena. they just want to see a good game.

Its simply a situation where you have an older white male in Stern disliking black clothing and wanting to change it.

 

When did Floyd say that? If he said it after sealing the fight with Mosley, it could be a prelude to another "duck show".:yep

 

This is to all the people who's dislike for Floyd Mayweather goes beyond the pale; i am going to call you out and say a good number of you guys are simply racist, you guys are the republicans and Floyd(is obama) you guys act as if Floyd Mayweather raped a small child or something. A majority of you self righteous internet tough guys. I bet your are the type of ***** who wouldn't lift a finger to save a child. I am sure Floyd would save a child in perceived danger just like many other Black man that society labels as thugs or miscreants. here is proof. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWGd7NAFUPU[/ame]
p.s. IF fighter A is black and Fighter B is white or if fighter A is your nationality or Fighter b is another ask yourself deep down who are you pulling for the win. Final thought it is well known that boxing is a racial sport. Boxing is politics

 

is this another excuse out of the fight in the making for floyd? ... not again.