Floyd scared of Pacquiao, not of Mosley and style discussion

Picachu · Feb 1, 2010

First of all this thread is only about the styles of these fighters (Floyd, Mosley and Pacquiao) and NOT about PEDs and the great controversial issue.

Even though I don't like Mayweather's boxing style, he is imo just a tick too slick for Mosley.

Mosley will try and stick to the strategy worked out by Nazim. If he does not get of track and follows his gameplan it will be a tough night for Floyd and I see this fight going 60/40 for Mosley, winning on points due to his offensive arsenal.

I predict that Mosley will get frustrated by around the 4th round (maybe even earlier) with Floyd's style and than it'll be an easy fight for Mayweather from there on.

One of Mayweather's biggest weapons is frustrating his opponents in such a way that at the end they just want to land something on him, throwing away their gameplans and strategies.

The only boxer with the right weapons to close Mayweather's big mouth is Pacquiao AND the best of all is that Mayweather knows this! (proofs comes further down.)

Pacquiao's style poses the greatest danger to Mayweather. Pacquiao is always moving in and out, rarely flatfooted, throws decent fast strong punches and important not committing them. One of Mayweather's biggest weapons is his counterpunching and these hurt his opponents the most.
With Pac's style Floyd's counterpunching will be worth Zero.

From this aspect alone will Pac win all fights against Floyd on points, because Floyd is not offensive enough to outpoint Pac otherwise.

Mosley on the other hand commits more on his punches and is, due to his style, more flatfooted. Sure he can dance around and throw non-commited punches but this is not the groundwork of his style. When fighters get tired or frustrated they return to their basic style.

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Prove that Floyd is scared of Pac. Here it is, if you know what to look for.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr7x9iizQVs[/ame]

Biggest clue:
1:57 subliminal reaction to pacquiao, watch his hands. (Someone also noticed this and commented it)
Subliminal's definition:
1. (Psychology) resulting from processes of which the individual is not aware

Second clue, harder to detect:
At 1.36 he starts counting of names of opponents. Watch his face closely when he mentions Cotto, then Pac and last Mosley. He is doesnt have problems saying the names of Cotto and Mostley ..but with Pac ... it's abit harder. Also watch his eyes getting all nervous and his breathing.

Watchers of the serie "Lie to me" will find this video interesting.

SoxNation · Feb 1, 2010

If that's the case, why didn't Pacquiao except the random blood testing and make the fight?

hagman1989 · Feb 1, 2010

if floyds to slick for mosley hes dam sure to slick for pac , pacs never been in with anyone with the defence of floyd

WeezyF27 · Feb 1, 2010

Picachu said: ↑

First of all this thread is only about the styles of these fighters (Floyd, Mosley and Pacquiao) and NOT about PEDs and the great controversial issue.

Even though I don't like Mayweather's boxing style, he is imo just a tick too slick for Mosley.

Mosley will try and stick to the strategy worked out by Nazim. If he does not get of track and follows his gameplan it will be a tough night for Floyd and I see this fight going 60/40 for Mosley, winning on points due to his offensive arsenal.

I predict that Mosley will get frustrated by around the 4th round (maybe even earlier) with Floyd's style and than it'll be an easy fight for Mayweather from there on.

One of Mayweather's biggest weapons is frustrating his opponents in such a way that at the end they just want to land something on him, throwing away their gameplans and strategies.

The only boxer with the right weapons to close Mayweather's big mouth is Pacquiao AND the best of all is that Mayweather knows this! (proofs comes further down.)

Pacquiao's style poses the greatest danger to Mayweather. Pacquiao is always moving in and out, rarely flatfooted, throws decent fast strong punches and important not committing them. One of Mayweather's biggest weapons is his counterpunching and these hurt his opponents the most.
With Pac's style Floyd's counterpunching will be worth Zero.

From this aspect alone will Pac win all fights against Floyd on points, because Floyd is not offensive enough to outpoint Pac otherwise.

Mosley on the other hand commits more on his punches and is, due to his style, more flatfooted. Sure he can dance around and throw non-commited punches but this is not the groundwork of his style. When fighters get tired or frustrated they return to their basic style.

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Prove that Floyd is scared of Pac. Here it is, if you know what to look for.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr7x9iizQVs

Biggest clue:
1:57 subliminal reaction to pacquiao, watch his hands. (Someone also noticed this and commented it)
Subliminal's definition:
1. (Psychology) resulting from processes of which the individual is not aware

Second clue, harder to detect:
At 1.36 he starts counting of names of opponents. Watch his face closely when he mentions Cotto, then Pac and last Mosley. He is doesnt have problems saying the names of Cotto and Mostley ..but with Pac ... it's abit harder. Also watch his eyes getting all nervous and his breathing.

Watchers of the serie "Lie to me" will find this video interesting.
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you are basing your whole arguement off of a TV series on USA Network?? hahaha wow that is a first..

second off.. isn't JMM known as quite the counterpuncher himself... how did he do against Pac?

Picachu · Feb 1, 2010

Is it soooo difficult to read the first sentence?? Please only discuss styles. There are more then enough other threads discussing why that fight didnt take place.

First of all this thread is only about the styles of these fighters (Floyd, Mosley and Pacquiao) and NOT about PEDs and the great controversial issue.
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Picachu · Feb 1, 2010

WeezyF27 said: ↑

you are basing your whole arguement off of a TV series on USA Network?? hahaha wow that is a first..

second off.. isn't JMM known as quite the counterpuncher himself... how did he do against Pac?
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My argument is not based on the series. We always send out Subliminal messages when we talk about certain topics. Sometimes we lie and these lies can be detected by observing your subliminal messages by people who know what to look for.

This same technic is simply used in this serie, therefor I even mentioned it. atsch

Silent_Assassin · Feb 1, 2010

Fail thread

SoxNation · Feb 1, 2010

Picachu said: ↑

Is it soooo difficult to read the first sentence?? Please only discuss styles. There are more then enough other threads discussing why that fight didnt take place.
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It's not only about styles if you're bringing body language, T.V. shows, and fear into the discussion. I only mentioned his refusal of random blood tests and never mentioned PEDs.

JMM gave Pacquiao loads of problems with his counter punching style in fights that most thought he won. Mayweather is a counter puncher who is a much better defensive fighter and also much faster than Marquez. When has Pacquiao faced a fighter as good, as quick, as skilled, as athletic, or as long as Floyd? Manny fights guys who stand right in front of him with no head movement and that's not Mayweather. How did you come up with your final outcome of Pacquiao outboxing Mayweather?

WeezyF27 · Feb 1, 2010

Picachu said: ↑

My argument is not based on the series. We always send out Subliminal messages when we talk about certain topics. Sometimes we lie and these lies can be detected by observing your subliminal messages by people who know what to look for.

This same technic is simply used in this serie, therefor I even mentioned it. atsch
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hahahaha are you Suliminaly avoiding my question about JMM?

Toontoon · Feb 1, 2010

Picachu said: ↑

One of Mayweather's biggest weapons is his counterpunching and these hurt his opponents the most.
With Pac's style Floyd's counterpunching will be worth Zero.

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atsch

LukeO · Feb 1, 2010

Does anyone assume Floyd is telling the truth ever?

SoxNation · Feb 1, 2010

WeezyF27 said: ↑

hahahaha are you Suliminaly avoiding my question about JMM?
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I'm sure he's not avoiding your question. He's just to busy trying to come up with answers to mine. I'm sure he'll answer both of ours soon.

Mrtibbs · Feb 1, 2010

Picachu said: ↑

First of all this thread is only about the styles of these fighters (Floyd, Mosley and Pacquiao) and NOT about PEDs and the great controversial issue.

Even though I don't like Mayweather's boxing style, he is imo just a tick too slick for Mosley.

Mosley will try and stick to the strategy worked out by Nazim. If he does not get of track and follows his gameplan it will be a tough night for Floyd and I see this fight going 60/40 for Mosley, winning on points due to his offensive arsenal.

I predict that Mosley will get frustrated by around the 4th round (maybe even earlier) with Floyd's style and than it'll be an easy fight for Mayweather from there on.

One of Mayweather's biggest weapons is frustrating his opponents in such a way that at the end they just want to land something on him, throwing away their gameplans and strategies.

The only boxer with the right weapons to close Mayweather's big mouth is Pacquiao AND the best of all is that Mayweather knows this! (proofs comes further down.)

Pacquiao's style poses the greatest danger to Mayweather. Pacquiao is always moving in and out, rarely flatfooted, throws decent fast strong punches and important not committing them. One of Mayweather's biggest weapons is his counterpunching and these hurt his opponents the most.
With Pac's style Floyd's counterpunching will be worth Zero.

From this aspect alone will Pac win all fights against Floyd on points, because Floyd is not offensive enough to outpoint Pac otherwise.

Mosley on the other hand commits more on his punches and is, due to his style, more flatfooted. Sure he can dance around and throw non-commited punches but this is not the groundwork of his style. When fighters get tired or frustrated they return to their basic style.

----------------- ~.~ ----------------- ~.~ -----------------

Prove that Floyd is scared of Pac. Here it is, if you know what to look for.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr7x9iizQVs

Biggest clue:
1:57 subliminal reaction to pacquiao, watch his hands. (Someone also noticed this and commented it)
Subliminal's definition:
1. (Psychology) resulting from processes of which the individual is not aware

Second clue, harder to detect:
At 1.36 he starts counting of names of opponents. Watch his face closely when he mentions Cotto, then Pac and last Mosley. He is doesnt have problems saying the names of Cotto and Mostley ..but with Pac ... it's abit harder. Also watch his eyes getting all nervous and his breathing.

Watchers of the serie "Lie to me" will find this video interesting.
Click to expand...

Poor.

I am sorry but both fighters have different strengths and weaknesses going into the fight. Floyds main strenght is that he does not get hit very often. We have seen him take on quick fighters before. I dont think Pacs angles that everyone goes on about will land enough. His weaknesses are his workrate and power but what he lacks in power he makes up for in skill and accuracy.

Seeing as they both have fast hands we can cancel this factor out.

Pac obviously has the power but like i said i doubt mayweather will get hit enough to do any damage. For me Pacs main weakness is that he does actually get hit quite a lot. Even hatton had Brief sucess and as you will see against clottey he will take quite a few while trying to brawl.

Sorry but any fight with mayweather comes down to pure boxing skill. He simply does not allow you to brawl, he just withdraws, re sets and counter punches. Pac would beat him brawling but he wont get enough chances to do so thorugh 12 rounds.

This is the main reason why floyd will win and why i think Pac opted not to fight him.

BigReg · Feb 1, 2010

Picachu said: ↑

First of all this thread is only about the styles of these fighters (Floyd, Mosley and Pacquiao) and NOT about PEDs and the great controversial issue.

Even though I don't like Mayweather's boxing style, he is imo just a tick too slick for Mosley.

Mosley will try and stick to the strategy worked out by Nazim. If he does not get of track and follows his gameplan it will be a tough night for Floyd and I see this fight going 60/40 for Mosley, winning on points due to his offensive arsenal.

I predict that Mosley will get frustrated by around the 4th round (maybe even earlier) with Floyd's style and than it'll be an easy fight for Mayweather from there on.

One of Mayweather's biggest weapons is frustrating his opponents in such a way that at the end they just want to land something on him, throwing away their gameplans and strategies.

The only boxer with the right weapons to close Mayweather's big mouth is Pacquiao AND the best of all is that Mayweather knows this! (proofs comes further down.)

Pacquiao's style poses the greatest danger to Mayweather. Pacquiao is always moving in and out, rarely flatfooted, throws decent fast strong punches and important not committing them. One of Mayweather's biggest weapons is his counterpunching and these hurt his opponents the most.
With Pac's style Floyd's counterpunching will be worth Zero.

From this aspect alone will Pac win all fights against Floyd on points, because Floyd is not offensive enough to outpoint Pac otherwise.

Mosley on the other hand commits more on his punches and is, due to his style, more flatfooted. Sure he can dance around and throw non-commited punches but this is not the groundwork of his style. When fighters get tired or frustrated they return to their basic style.

----------------- ~.~ ----------------- ~.~ -----------------

Prove that Floyd is scared of Pac. Here it is, if you know what to look for.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr7x9iizQVs

Biggest clue:
1:57 subliminal reaction to pacquiao, watch his hands. (Someone also noticed this and commented it)
Subliminal's definition:
1. (Psychology) resulting from processes of which the individual is not aware

Second clue, harder to detect:
At 1.36 he starts counting of names of opponents. Watch his face closely when he mentions Cotto, then Pac and last Mosley. He is doesnt have problems saying the names of Cotto and Mostley ..but with Pac ... it's abit harder. Also watch his eyes getting all nervous and his breathing.

Watchers of the serie "Lie to me" will find this video interesting.
Click to expand...

So now counterpunching is ineffective againt Pac? How did Marquez have so much success against Pac? And if Mayweather is so scared of Pac, why didn't Pac just agree to the 14 day testing window?

finalfight · Feb 1, 2010

Noob with an Asian sounding username...hmmm, I smell new ******* blood here at the board that never sleeps!

Floyd is not scared of Manny. Floyd beats Manny ever which way on any given day 100 out of 100 times.

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