Floyd Sr: “My son will never fight Manny Pacquiao”

from 0 days to 14 days cut-off with floyd and from 30 days to 24 days cut-off with pac. they could have made it easily to 19 days but both parties refused to further give-in even if they are just 10 days apart.

the difference here now is only pac has show some concessions while floyd made a backward move. the last time around, both just stood their ground with their stand.

and yes floyd probably doesn't read them but some boxing writers' columnist and bloggers are posters of boxing boards. and when boxing hardcores on the forums have this some kind of unpopular opinion with his stance, it would reach him via news or some 2nd hand info. mayweaher has a very good PR team and they would be sensitive enough to know the opinion of those who follow the sport.

 

This is just BS.

Americans pride themselves on the tennet or innocent until proven guilty, until its a non-amaerican in the P4P driving seat apparently.

He didn't dodge a test - He agreed to random urine and they disagreed on one point - Mayweather is not a commission, Manny had every right to tell him to go **** himself.

It's called a fight "negotiation".

He agreed to fight Floyd, Floyd came up with this and refused to fight a guy who has never even been RUMOURED to be dirty by anyone in his camp or training/sparring partners ever, has over 8 years of clean tests and has given blood before.

Floyd said no - He's the only one ducking.

For the record - Floyd would win a 8-4 in rounds decision on Pac IMO, too bad he's a wanker.

 

If you read my other posts you'd realize I know pac has already agreed and until Floyd agree's with the 14 day cutoff again then he's the moron now. My point didn't have to do with Pac, it was speaking generally.

 

Since you have a problem considering any other notions other than what the Mayweathers tell you, here's an article from The Ring, you know, the magazine owned by Floyd's handlers. Rings true a few months ago, rings true today with Floyd's new comments. :deal

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"A Quack In The Facade". Article by Jim Bagg. All image use is for reference only. Full article can be found on Ring Magazine April 2010 edition page 124.

 

this has been done to death. pac explained that he doesn't want to be tested very near the fight caue it affect him, probably mentally more so than physically.

now answer this, why would floyd back out of his original terms once pac accepted it? and don't give me the reason that he pulled it out ever since the collapse of the first negotiation. if floyd is acting in good faith and wants to fight pacquiao, he would go back to his original terms.

 

Circumstances have changed. Floyd was being generous with the 50/50 split in the first place. PPV numbers show an advantage for Floyd with all common opponents and in general. As for the testing, the idea of a cut off date goes against the whole reason the testing is needed in the first place. They should not have compromised on this but I understand in their hopes of making the fight they did so.

As for the the whole scared of needles argument if you take this serious, I cannot take you serious.

I'm a grown man and when people say things like this I feel like I am speaking with children.

 

I thought grown men didn't play Chinese whispers?

 

back then, pac is coming off the better PPV numbers over floyd who had just came from retirement. 1.25M PPV against cotto vs. 1.05M PPV vs JMM yet pac agreed to a 50/50 split. so floyd is not that generous, he was given the luxury of the split just because of his past record.

it's not about the needle but the taking of the blood too close to the fight, i think that he was his worried.

but all this issues aside, why would floyd not accept now his previous terms of 14 days cut-off? does he really want this fight?

 

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He should not agree to a cut off date. If the Tour De France had a cut off date only those cheating would have a realistic chance of winning.

 

but they would get caught right after the race.

 

Floyd has done better ppv numbers than Manny with every common opponent. What did Manny do with Marquez? Cotto brought a huge fanbase to that fight.

 

Wrong. They have a hard time even catching these guys in the act. EPO clears the body fast. One reason that Armstrong has been harassed so much is that within the cycling community many people do not believe it was possible to win in the nineties without doping.

 

It clears the body fast but not within 2 or 3 hours. This is not the 90s anymore. Cyclists have been caught using EPO through urine testing.

 

All this talk of other sports is irrelevant here because this is not a commission with international authority that has the capacity not only to test, but to store samples to test years later when more sophisticated tests are able to pick up PED's or other substances OR the masking agents.

Floyd and his team asking for Olympic style testing neglect to note that Marion Jones who won 4 golds in Sydney had her medals stripped after being named in the same BALCO case that Shane Mosley had to answer too.

When it comes to boxing - a drug test should not and is completley innappropriate on the negotiation of a fight. This is not gloves or ring size, these are serious health issues that need something more accountable.

Legally - I would question what a postive Pacquiao test would mean if this was something in the fight contract. For example, Floyd bought the checkbook when he had no intention on making the weight for the JMM fight - If Pac returned a positive test - All it would mean is that Floyd would get the money and his reputation would be sullied.

There would be no precedent to strip his titles away because he had passed tests in the past when fighting throughout the 00's.

Floyd wants to look after himself first and if his rhetoric about "cleaning the sport" was true, he would more activley be lobbying the NSAC and any other commission to deal with it. NOT just making it an extra way to exercise power on the negotiation table.

It's been a real schamozzle from top to bottom.