Floyd Sr: Amir Khan Is Taking Punches All Of A Sudden?!

It is not the best option no, as I said not all PED's are detectable through urine.

I should also add it's not a matter of picking just one over another; urine and random blood testing should be used in conjunction rather than picking one sole testing method over another as neither one is 100% fool-proof.

I think the BALCO scandal really did blow open the lid on how easily urine testing on its own can be manipulated. The thing is, it's not just the PED's themselves, the masking agents have also changed and improved whereas the advancement of detection through urine testing has not kept up.

 

There was a guy who posted here a while back, actually ran a drug testing lab. He advised that all PEDs are testable via urine.

Apparently this is not the case, the reason comes down to cost. You can test everything via urine, you can test everything via blood. But some tests are cheaper via urine, some are cheaper via blood.
So you get a mix of both as the cheapest option, not the best. Given situations like the Olympics or other events where there is a huge amount of testing going on, then going for the cheapest option is sensible.

It will cost more, but only using urine testing up until the fight will give as good a coverage as a mix between urine and blood.

But that was only the opinion of a guy who ran a drug testing lab; and one who had no bias in the matter. I'd trust the Mayweathers, Victor Conte, some bodybuilding friends of mine or a Drug testing firm that is trying to get a lucrative deal over an impartial expert.

Of course, if it was a-side meth, which is apparently centuries old, then any modern test would pick it up immediately.

 

Ideally it should be all the way to the fight itself or else it renders the whole "random" thing pointless.

The common fallacy people seem to have is by having random blood testing, it could mean being blood-tested every day during the leadup week. While in theory they can this is highly unlikely. As medical professionals, the testing is not meant to interfere with the health of the athlete, so taking that much blood that close to competition is not encouraged (in fact blood is replenished 24-48 hours after). Only if they have reasonable grounds to suspect* something is going on would they do it so close to competition.



*Of course this is open to debate on what constitutes "reasonable grounds" and is a valid objection.

 

Quit with that random is not random if there is a cut-off.

Daily urine test plus random blood test. Random blood test however stops at 7 days within the fight, but another sample shall be taken at the locker room right after the fight.

Someone here might use the condom argument on post blood drug test, please stop.

USDA at 18 days but still random.

 

NSAC recently reassessed their drug testing policy and they disregarded what you and Tygart are saying.

Until you give specific (links/source)

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for anabolic steroids (which is also banned by WADA) that are not detectable in urine, your point is :dead.

 

It appears that Void, Sr. and Jr. will do almost anything to keep from fight Pac!

 

I find that interesting as I've been advised that it's not simply just the drugs themselves but some of the masking agents are not detectable through urine. But as a medical science you are going to have experts on both side of the fence. I've always been adament that urine and blood testing should be used in conjunction with one another for the best results. It is not simply "urine" will detect all or "blood" will detect all.

I agree with the cost aspect, it is a matter of balancing an acceptable level of testing with an acceptable expenditure. For example, I could argue 24/7 cameras following the boxers during lead up to fights; designated person to follow the boxer everywhere; or maybe hook them up to a machine that constantly monitors their intake. This would stop alot more cheating than random testing, however the cost and practicaility is not at an acceptable balance.

 

I have no problem with a 7-day or 14-day or whatever day cutoff. As my last post, it is about getting a balance between what is an acceptable percentage of getting caught vs acceptable practicality.

 

:good

 

Take the test

 

7 days

 

its really just that simple...take the full random test.

Good thing is though...Khan has stated intrest in facing Floyd as have some of his team members...so it looks like they dont mind taking the test...so it appears.

 

please stop inventing stories.

 

yes it's been agreed. now, go out from hiding and sign the fight.

 

uh he was taking punches from a very hard hitter who ruined 2 young fighters before he met khan and khan was supposedly the one to have the weakest chin and khan never went down
not saying hes on peds but come on the guy handle maidana power well