Floyd Sr: Lil Floyd is oldschool.. he don't need no conditioning coach

agreed

 

Strength. The old school methods wouldn't let you increase your strength. Your punching power couldn't increase when you went up in weight. Now your punching power can increase as evidenced from Pacquiao, Marquez, Donaire and others. Even Bradley looks to be punching harder now.

 

Science is what works. Not "hard" work but "smart" work.

 

Ill repeat, Floyd does do S+C stuff. Watch the 24/7's, he lifts weights, hits tyres etc.

Yes,he also runs and spars hard, he has a great work eithic.

Ive always seen running as over-rated for a boxer. What endurance is a boxer going to build runningm,that he cant build in the gym, hitting bags,pads, skipping and sparring hard?

Naz didnt do any running for most of his career. Pretty sure Haye does very little running as well.

 

No what I am saying is Broner who may very well do lots of road work and such, still trains like the new age fighters (Lots of strength training blended with conditioning).

I hear what your saying 100%. I am just saying as a Certified Persomal Trainer and MMA Conditioninmg Coach (Not to brag just to point out my credentials) I bet Lil Floyd would have definitely benefited from adopting new principles into his training. After a while the workouts get stale and the body stops progressing. You can do 1000 standing sit - ups day in day out ... eventually they become less effective. Why do you think Floyd constanlty takes long layoffs. Jokes aside from the haters who will say he is ducking, I think he takes long layoffs becuase of his intense training camps. Just becuase he trains hours upon hours and has been highly successful doesnt mean that he couldnt get the same results (speaking mainly fitness wise) doing different type of training.

 

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All jokes aside I use this phrase almost daily when I train my clients. No BS! Thats my motto

 

Traditional methods work, but we do have a better understanding of physiology and sport performance nowadays, so incorporating strength and conditioning regimens into a program that has traditional methods as it`s base will undoubtedly help an athlete maximize his physical tools and potential. As has been mentioned, doing the same training regimens over and over, camp after camp will definitely get a fighter in great shape, but there does come a point of diminishing returns, where adding in sport specific methods and training can bust those plateaus and the athlete can experience physical gains and improvements they possibly never would have had by just doing the old school stuff.

 

Could they not burn those calories just as eaily, hitting the bag or skipping?

 

It appears as if you are agreeing with me. Thats my point. The old school approach is just that, old school. The reason why a lot of old timers trained doing hours of roadwork is was becuase S&C coaching wasnt really a profession then. As good as Jim Brown and Walter Payton were on the field, I can guarantee they would have even more dominant had they had the type of trainers that NFL teams now employ.

Case in point Manny Pacquaio. Alex Ariza said the last time they used his S&C Training was I believe the Margarito fight. Now look at his next fights after that (Mosley, Marquez 3, Bradley MArquez 4) and you can see that goijg back to the old school of training like Freddy wanted, really didnt help him. And I am not talking about him getting knocked out, that was becuase of JMM counter ounching. Even JMM became a beast after using Hernandez. I know some of you will say PED's ... maybe maybe not, but you still cant deny the benefits of a highly educated/knowlegdable strength coach.

 

All I am saying is you get some deer spray and its all good.

 

Yep.

Jogging isnt to lose weight. It is to improve the cardiovascular system (heart, lungs, etc...) andserves as a way to wam the body up. You can lose weight jogging but High Interval Training is much more effective. Examples...

Burpees
Sprints
Med ball throws
Tire Flipping

Moreso than not, fighters jog to relax and clear their head.