Floyd Still Hyping His W Over Green + Drained Canelo; Says Canelo KOs Triple G...

No, My narrative is clearly written out in the post you quoted. You can address it or try to deflect it.

Well, Brook is actually a very good win. However, resume in the strictest since isn't the best means of predicting a fantasy fight such as this. The factors that would see Golovkin picked as a betting favorite would come down to the perception that the aging Mayweather wouldn't be able to stand up to the pressure of a two fisted power punching durable middleweight who cut off the ring. It doesn't matter if Mayweather beat Castillo and Corrales and his great resume.

 

But an old floyd beat canelo who is younger, more experienced, and arguably just as strong as ggg. You cant just dismiss that no matter how you slice it.

Brooks ring iq and skill are like night and day compared to floyd. If hes an 8/10 floyds a 20. Ggg would be swinging at air and plodding around.

Now if you mean if floyd were to come out of retirement right NOW then i agree it doesnt look good. But the floyd who was handling cotto, maidana, and canelo would easily school him.

 

You can argue anything, but the majority of the boxing world sees Golovkin as far more dangerous offensive threat than Canelo. And if Golovkin and Canelo gets made within the next 12 months, Golovkin will be favored over him as well.

I don't see what Brook and Mayweather even have in common. I asked you to explain how Golovkin got "pieced" and "embarressed" by Brook.

It's pretty easy to make bold predictions about fantasy fights. I don't see the Maywather who fought Maidana lasting very long with Golovkin, personally.

 

Plenty of people give canelo a chance. If everyone thought ggg would just steamroll him and expect him to win they wouldnt be asking for the fight.

-canelo has faster hands
-better uppercuts
-better timing
-arguably more powerful body shots
-better combinations

Ggg is more relentless and has bone crushing power, sure, but so does canelo who also has ring generalship and, ironically, more experience against world class opponents. Both guys have granite chins and good stamina. I really dont get how people think its a given when overall canelo has more stats going for him.

Brook and mayweather are both boxer/punchers with good jabs who can counter, fight on the outside and arent afraid to throw bombs. Mayweather is just better at anything brook can do except perhaps raw punching power.

How did he piece up and embarass ggg? Where do i begin?

-he only had 1 noteworthy win in his own division (which was a close fight some people thought he lost)

-^yet people considered brook a step UP in class for ggg who had lemiuex, dwayne wade, and glass jawed featherfisted quitter willie monroe.

-ggg came out strong in the 1st hurting brook but by the end of the round, brook was dodging gggs wild shots, backing golovkin up, timing him with hooks and landing good shots

-round 2 brook was in complete control slipping shots and landing flush powerful hooks and uppercuts at ring center on the bigger ggg.

-round 3 again, ggg comes out strong, applies pressure, gets brook into a corner, and lands some good right hands but...again, brook manages to survive and slip or block many of gggs shots and fought back.

-round 4 &5 ggg finally manages to pin brook against the ropes and lands enough bombs to force a stoppage.

The worst part? He couldnt drop brook and 2/3 judges had the fight even.

Brook proved:

-ggg has no head movement
-poor defense
-is flat footed
-had an easy to read attack pattern and could be timed and countered
-could be backed up and hurt by a freaking welterweight

Yeah, it was pretty easy of you to come up with a fan fiction version of Rocky.

Maidana weighed 162 iirc. Mayweather was 38 years old and took sledgehammer bombs without going down. Canelo never really hurt him either. Because of this, i doubt ggg could ko him. He certainly isnt outboxing mayweather, so outside of a freakish punchers chance or a nasty cut i just dont see ggg ever beating mayweather.

 

The demand for the fight mostly stems from the desire to sort out the lineal title business. Golovkin has been in line for years now and people want him to have his shot. When Cotto had the title, people were asking for that fight too.

I can't agree with any of this.

No, I don't believe Canelo's power is remotely comparable.

The perception is Golovkin will cut off the ring and out punch him.

I don't think anybody would describe Mayweather as someone not afraid to throw bombs. And your stylistic comparison is so vague, you could contrast anyone to Mayweather.

I know I personally thought it was a good fight. I think Lemiuex was probably a better challenge and Golovkin's approach to that fight confirms this for me.

Arguable and a moot point.

Judges are idiots. I only gave Brook round 2. He got rocked in Round 1, got his face broke in Round 3 and was battered with unanswered punches until his corner threw in the towel to save his career.

I don't think being dropped matters if the man is leaning into the ropes and getting hammered with unanswered punches.

Brook didn't show us that. Golovkin just executed a game plan where he walked his man down behind a high guard and hammering jab, battering his man to a corner stoppage before the 5th bell.

I would point to the Lemieux bout for examples of Golovkin boxing the way you deem to be correct, bouncing on his toes, moving his head, picking off punches...etc.

-A 170 pound fighter, heavier than Golovkin on all weigh ins, who just happened to campaign at welterweight prior to the bout btw.

Never happened.

I don't believe Maidana or Canelo are remotely close to Golovkin as punchers.

 

That is just it though isn't it. Floyd doesn't take fights where he doesn't have a clear edge or isn't a clear favorite. GGG isn't too big, hell Floyd's fought several times at LMW and GGG would meet him at 154, Floyds fought before at 151-152. But it ain't the size, its the fact GGG is a legit threat to beat him and floyd, basically since corrales and castillo has steered far away from those type of fighters.

Paul williams once said " I would have to be a female for Floyd to face me, he will never fight me i don't think"

 

Maidana 's a bum, albeit a tough one. GGG hits way harder and can box 100x better. GGG has an archlike hook that he smashes off the top of opponents heads and Floyd's rolling with punches won't protect that kind of punch. Its not a guarentee Floyd would lose, he may be able to run all night type thing but I think even GGG punches to floyd's body, chest, shoulders, would slow him right down by the mid rounds.

 

Ggg is not faster than canelo by any measure.

Show me ggg using an uppercut as devastating as the one canelo used on angulo. Show ggg with faster combinations.

How? Ggg looked like pernall whittaker effortlessly outboxing the flat footes lemiux with his jab. The only thing more "challenging" than the brook fight was him being bigger and stronger which was evidently easier to work around.

Moot point? When was the last time ggg went 12 rounds? Whats his resume? Oh yeah, dwayne wade, lemiux, and a blown up unproven welterweight along with a long line of tomato cans.

Who did ggg beat who was better than cotto, lara, kirkland, or trinidad? Even a washed up mosley is better than half the bums on ggg resume.

You just ignored my observations of all those rounds. Brook landed many good power shots in the first and second rounds and slipped many punchss.

Judges are idiots? Then whats the point of watching boxing? With that blanket statement you can dispute and argue any fight that doesnt end in a knockout. You are displaying some extreme fanboy qualities right about now.

So those things didnt happen, is that what youre telling me? Ggg was slipping punches, had a tight defense, actually boxed? He didnt. Earlier you admitted he had no choice because he was a "pressure fighter". Make up your mind.

Then hes "inconsostent" and/or brook was simply too good and made him look sloppy. Lots of fighters are talented but inconsistent or lazy. Look at james toney or jimmy young.

This stupid argument again? I could easily chomp pn burgers until i weigh more than anthony joshua, that doesnt mean im actually bigger than him.

So you werent using revisionist history and pretending like rocky could win a 12 round fight using a jab and lateral movement? You didnt claim rocky could hurt and back up 250+ pound figters? You didnt claim rocky could consistently fight backing up? Because THAT never happened and you never proved it. News flash: 4 second gifs out of 15 rounds do not prove consistency.

Is easy to have a high ko % if you spend a decade knocking out cab drivers before you step up in class.