Floyd stop trying to act like you're some pioneer...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Zone36, Apr 14, 2010.


  1. J.E.Cash

    J.E.Cash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's not like Mayweather refused to budge entirely on the testing. He met Pac in the middle and agreed a 15 day window before the fight. Pac is the one who refused.
     
  2. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    1 True, you are an ass.

    2 Common sense says that any man who gets into a ring is afraid of what might happen to him.

    3 (Bonus) You have no common sense.
     
  3. 1HitterQuitter

    1HitterQuitter RUTHLESS BY LAW Full Member

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    So I'm guessing MOST of the Mayweather fans here think Pac is using? Any Mayweather followers think that Pac is not using? Just wondering. If Pacquiao ,Cotto, Mosley, Ali, Foreman,Frazier, Tszyu, Pryor, Arguello, Duran, Kid Diamond, etc said that crack was not a drug, i would'nt believe it.
     
  4. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    To a floydette like you, you can justify it whether it is 500 grams or 10 pounds, to make Floyd smell so good.

    You are missing the point AS USUAL.

    It is not the amount of weight but rather it is the principle. Afterall, Floyd as all Floydette claim is a very principled man. Afterall, he does not want any form of cheating in boxing and he is the reincarnation of Malcolm X, Martin Luther King----AHEMMM.

    Did I say it has not effect on Cotto? Cotto agreed and never complained about it so only Cotto knows whether it has any effect on him. And from the looks of it, he seems ok for the first few rounds.

    Unlike you where you can immediately jump to a conclusion that that 2 pounds is insignificant.

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    be significant if Mayweather had to shed that 2 pounds in 2 hours as per regulations. Had you tried shedding 2 pounds in that short amount of time? Guzman refused in his fight aginst Campbell for a reason. It is hard and draining.

    The mere fact that the fight was already postponed due to a supposedly rib injury (which I believe is more likely to weight issues as the fight was already close yet Mayweather was still light years away from 144) and yet still need to change the contract to accomodate his overweight ass! THE FIGHT WAS ALREADY POSTPONED SO WHY IN HELL WAS HE NOT ABLE TO MAKE 144?

    Cotto had more than 3 months to make 145. He was not given 1 months notice to be at 145! He fought at 146 in his previous fight. That 2 pounds or 1 pound, whichever you want to use as reference, probaly matters if he does not manage his weight program properly. 3 months is quite very long for a fighter to prepare.

    Another thing, Pac is the smaller man against Cotto, while Mayweather is the bigger man against JMM. So the comparison is not the same.

    Let me sum it to you in your floydette way:

    Mayweather who is a welteright asked a lightweight to go up 2 divisions at a catchweight (to idiotic floydettes, apparently JMM agreed to a weltereight limit, which makes JMM the bigger idiot), yet he still was able to gain extra advantage in the weigh-in.

    The 144 is not even remotely close to the lightweight limit of 135, so technically it is not a catchweight. Floyd had to go down 3 pounds while JMM had to jump up 9 pounds.

    And to the floydettes who justified it as jumping up is easier than going down so everything is equal - ahemmm.

    Pac, who is a JWW or at most a small welterweight, asked a full pledged welterweight to fight at a catchweigh of 145, a limit closer to the welterweight limit than a JWW limit, with more than enough time.
     
  5. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    I'm going to honest. I didn't read anything you wrote.

    Im more interested in the video that hit the forum about Mosleys admission.
     
  6. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    Yet this sorry son of a ***** want to talk about me with ******ed post...****boys makes me laugh on here... Bitchass nirca!:rofl
     
  7. pejevan

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    Drug Testing for HGH: Scientifically Valid or Just Politically Correct?
    By Patrick C. English, Esq.

    The Manny Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather debacle has led to an incredible amount of posturing and, as a result,
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    . This posturing has been under the guise of a campaign for a drug-free sport, something we all favor. But the posturing obscures the scientific truth.

    First, the best experts in the field report know there is no good test for HGH. At present, there is no urine test that works. And
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    He points out that, out of 1,500 blood tests, only one came back positive for HGH, despite a well-founded suspicion that HGH use is far more prevalent. In part, this is because the detection limit is short, about 24 hours. In other words, the athlete would have had to use HGH within approximately 24 hours of the test to actually be caught.


    Further, the one athlete who was “busted” for HGH, after testing, admitted to using it.
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    . Dr. Peter Sonksen, a pioneer in the field of HGH testing, says,
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    This charge is echoed by epidemiologist Dr. Charles E. Yesalis of Penn State, who contends that the
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    Further, anyone who has ever been involved in
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    . Blood tests, if done randomly, are exceedingly infrequent. Athletes who are subject to in-and-out-of-competition testing go years with no blood tests (though urine testing is another matter).

    Further, unannounced
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    an example, spur-of-the-moment activities must be reported to WADA, according to the rules, 24 hours in advance. If an athlete decides to go to the shore on a sunny day, to go to assist a friend, or any of the plethora of activities of which we all partake every week, it must be reported to WADA in advance. This is tough enough to do with college athletes, more or less captive on campuses and virtually impossible with professionals with normal lives. In recognition of its difficulty,
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    That brings us right back to the testing protocols. If HGH is detectable for only 24 hours, all an athlete needs to do is to arrange to be unavailable for testing the following day. Chances are overwhelmingly small that any test will be taken the following day. But if one is to be taken, the athlete can simply make himself unavailable that day without penalty.

    Further, the
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    . The example of one Olympic level athlete is illustrative. Jessica Hardy, a swimmer, gave a urine sample on July 4, 2008. It was not until July 23 that she was notified of the failed drug test. She initially challenged the result and thus had the right to a hearing. That hearing began on August 1, 2008, when she withdrew her challenge. Thus it took approximately three weeks before she was even notified (resulting from the need to test the “B” sample) and four weeks before the matter was resolved. The Hardy matter involved a steroid with established scientific validity and an admission. If, as claimed by Dr. Sonksen, there are flaws in the methodology for HGH testing, a legal challenge will take very considerably longer.

    Whether Jessica Hardy was allowed to compete or not, the Olympics were going to proceed and her situation had no impact on its promotion. However, the same is not true of a boxing promotion. We have seen far too many situations when results from an “A” sample and from a “B” sample do not correspond (thus both need to be tested) and even situations from reputable labs where contamination, later discovered, made results unreliable. This is why the due process of a hearing is necessary. By the time this is completed, a boxing event will have either already taken place or been irretrievably destroyed.

    Drs. Caitlin, Sonksen and Yesalis are not advocates for abuse of drugs in sport. To the contrary, they are respected researchers who have done much to attempt to eliminate performance-enhancing drugs in sport. Dr. Caitlin heads the most respected drug testing laboratory in the United States and developed the test which broke the BALCO scandal. Dr. Sonksen is a fellow of the Royal Society of Physicians with some 315 scientific publications, many on this very topic. Dr. Yesalis co-authored the first comprehensive surveys of teen steroid use.

    Caitlin, Sonksen, and others are working on legitimate, more reliable tests for HGH. While it may appear politically correct and provide a good “sound bite” to jump on the bandwagon for drug-free sports, the truth is that the blood testing suggested for HGH is, at best, limited and impractical and, at worst, scientifically suspect. Efforts should be toward developing tests that work and then implementing them; not in pretending that there are good and generally accepted scientifically valid testing techniques when there are not.

    Patrick C. English, Esq. is an attorney with the firm of Dines and English, L.L.C. He has handled numerous matters involving drug testing and drug testing protocols, both on behalf of athletes, as well as defending testing protocols.
     
  8. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I will take the word of a scientist over the word of a lawyer any day. :deal
     
  9. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Are you an imbecile?

    That article was written by a lawyer which he quoted prominent scientist and infact the persons who are actually running those doping test. And that lawyer actually defended athletes as well the the drug protocol or laboratory.

    Stupid! You would rather believe the crackhead?

    Drug Testing for HGH: Scientifically Valid or Just Politically Correct?
    By Patrick C. English, Esq.

    And
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    ,
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    and for many years one of the most knowledgeable stated blah blah blah


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    , says, “blah blah blah blah.”

    This charge is echoed by
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    , who contends that blah blah blahDr. Caitlin has said flatly that blah blah blah blah


    Drs. Caitlin, Sonksen and Yesalis are not advocates for abuse of drugs in sport. To the contrary, they are respected researchers who have done much to attempt to eliminate performance-enhancing drugs in sport.
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    I guess they are not acientist enough for you unless they are testing coke? Or anything that is more than 1 sentence looks blah blah blah to you?
     
  10. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, but I think you are actually an imbecile.

    Oh and you would rather believe the lying adulterous ***** mongering cheater? I just want Manny to test and fight.

    Did you even understand the article? Did you ever listen to any of those scientists, like Dr. Caitlin for example, in DIRECT interviews? No you didn't. Because if you had you would know that Dr. Caitlin came down AGREEING with Mayweather on the testing. It is in the ESB archives imbecile.

    Like I said you moron, I don't trust a BS lawyer who needs clients and billable hours on ANY controversial subject. I damn sure don't trust cherry picked out of context sentences. He is FISHING for clients you fool. If you had a lick of intelligence, you would see how this was an advertisement for DEFENDING HGH charges!

    You clown.
     
  11. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    He always does that ****, he doesnt even read the articles he post!
     
  12. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Look at his dumb ass name. :yep
     
  13. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    :rofl I know right!
     
  14. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Two dumb asses playing tag team!!! How nice!!!!

    Why don't you two go find a hotel room and leave the ESB alone.

    Did you even read the article? With your mental capacity, I am sure that after the second sentence, everything becomes blah blah blah blah. So I am not surprised!

    Floydettes believe the Alien-looking drug addict over somebody who probably had 10 years in uni.

    BTW, I suppose you find bald_head_slick as slick? Or Rudyard as tough? Because all I get are two imbeciles, nothing more.

    Now, attack my name? Is that your argument?

    If you can't argue, you turn it into a character assasination! Is there anything new with Floydettes?

    You two dumb-asses are never good in debating so shut the hell up. Or present a counter argument in the form of another article!
     
  15. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    You are really in love with floyd mayweather. Like.... scary in love.