Floyd "the ducker" Mayweather Jr. won't fight pacquiao..

The point isn't whether he'd beat these fighters, it's that he won't fight them.

The thing that I can't stand about him, the thing that doesn't get mentioned all that often, is that he has to have advantages built into his fights (weight class, ring size, location, referee...any factor that can be be "adjusted"), A guy who is the best at what he does shouldn't need this.

That being said, I think he will fight Manny. It will be at a catchweight for no reason other than PBF needs that advantage (which makes no sense - why not go for lineal 140lb ring magazine championship by fighting at 140? Then he can claim real championship in that division if he wins, especially since he was never a real champion there).

 

Actually.. Pacquiao's promoter Bob Arum, doesn't seem to want to let Mayweather fight Manny. The bottom line is Floyd is entitled to a 50-50 split if they fight... especially if he dominates Juan Manuel Marquez. Arum, however, wants Pac-man in the ring with Miguel Cotto this fall, assuming Cotto gets by Joushua Clottey.

I'm so sick of all these haters out here who cry about Floyd ducking this guy and that. He was the #1 pound 4 pound in the world. Fighters have to come to him if they want a shot. Then, they have to have the credentials (ie talent, name, record) to make for a good fight that will make the most money.

If Floyd supposedly ducked fighters before he retired, he isn't anymore. He went right for the #2 pound 4 pound fighter in the world, skipping a tune-up. When he wins, I assure you he will fight Mosley, Cotto, or hopefully more than the others, Manny.

 

PBF is such a cherrypicker - totally agree. washed up oscar, zab judah, hatton, ****ing gatti (?), lost to castillo, what a robbery, he is all what you say - $$, WWE style.
did you see how stupid he looked facing marquez in the press conference?
this fraud gayrunner fellow makes people leave the area in boredom. the worst boxing attitude and persona i have ever come across. he's all around a great boxer, but until he steps up to the plate and fights the best, he's meh at best. and irritating.

 

Marquez is not post prime. Ive got all his fights (bar 1st in Swine Flu land) and he loooks as good as ever. Yes his style has changed into a more aggresive one (for HBO) but he's still technically sound. The problem is the weight issue. PBF is gonna beat the P4P number 2 and get no credit, same as the no credit he got for beating Ricky Hatton

 

Floyd beat a still solid Oscar De La Hoya in 2007. The Golden Boy was at the end of his prime, but really got up for that fight and was in it for the first half of the fight until he got tired. De La Hoya didn't show signs of decline until the Steve Forbes fight, but by the time Manny got a crack at him, he had not only passed his prime, but trained wrong for the fight.


Floyd chased Oscar for years, while De La Hoya was in his "prime." Floyd wanted Mosely when Shane was in his prime, and Mosley turned down the fight saying Money wasn't a big enough name yet. Now the tables are turned and Shane knows he only has a fight or 2 left, so he's going after the biggest names because he's already made millions.

Cotto and Mayweather would be a great fight, and I believe if Cotto can keep winning and Mayweather beats Marquez, its a good possibility we could see them fight at some point.

Margarito was obviously exposed as the cheating, loafy club fighter he really was by Mosley.

Floyd wants big money fights. Its business. Fighting De La Hoya (the biggest draw in boxing at the time) and Ricky Hatton (an undefeated lineal champ at 140 lb who had been calling him out and a cash cow overseas) was a wise business move and fights people wanted to see because of the good competition.

Just because Pretty Boy didn't get to your favorite fighter yet, don't worry. He's back and taking all comers.

 

I firmly dissaggree with this part. Mayweather can't even pick the ref, the commission is the one who assigns the ref. The ring size is picked by the promoter and has to be within a certain size anyway. Floyd didn't even start promoting himself until the Hoya fight. His fights against Hoya and Hatton were co-promoted by Golden Boy and Golden Boy picked the size of the ring. The only fight where you can say he dictated the location and weight was the Hatton fight. However, it wouldn't have made sense financially to stage the fight in Europe(why do you think his fight with Pac was in Vegas as well). Maybe they could've fought at a catchweight, but Floyd was the WW champ(Hatton held the IBO belt at 140) and Hatton is the one who challenged him. Meanwhile, in the Oscar fight, Oscar picked the venue, the ring size, the weight, and the brand of gloves that Floyd had to wear.

So now we're criticisng him on something that hasn't even happened? Also, Floyd hasn't fought at 140 in 4 years, what if he can no longer get that low? I bet if he can comfortably make 140, that's the weight at which that fight would take place.

 

Even if you are post-prime, you can still be a very good fighter. Look at Bernard Hopkins. Look at Archie Moore.

 

Just wait for it to happen so I can say I told you so. He's doing it to Marquez. The bottom line is it gives floyd a significant mental and physical advantage, something that he needs. Why does he need this if he's the best boxer alive? And if he doesn't need it, then why does he do it? He will never step out of his comfort zone, this is something you can't argue (you might try by saying he did so against ODLH - a fight Oscar set up for himself to win - or against Gatti - going to Gatti's back yard - but come on, you'd have to be a moron to pick against him in either of those fights)

But something like this will just make more rewarding when he finally does lose - within his own comfort zone.

 

**** Floyd.Pac doesnt need him hes the best fighter in the world and has already achieved more than Floyd and also ranks higher than him on all time lists.

Pac can fight Cotto who is a real fighter.

 

Seriously, what are you talking about? Nothing give Floyd a mental advantage, floyd goes into every fight mental and physically 100% prepared because of his dedication to the sport.

Need what? I guess he needed physical advantages as he was moving up also fighting bigger men. The only other guy he fought that can be considered small is Hatton.

What about Corrales? He was the shorter smaller man. And what about Castillo? His first fight at 135 where he was outweighted by 10 plus pds and he hadnt even grown into the division yet.

:-(

 

Ofcoz Floyd wont fight Pacquiao. Arum wont let it. Floyd dont need him.

btw it is funny how Marquez is now over the hill small man and Pacquiao who argubly lost twice with JMM is not.

 

What the **** are you talking about? OScar picked the gloves, picked the ring, picked the venue, and picked the weight. You're a moron. How the hell can you talk about Mayweather being difficult to negotiate with when the man in your avatar makes guys like De La Hoya drain themselves, wont fight mosley unless he comes down in weight, and took months to finalize a deal with Hatton because he wanted the bulk of the purse.

You're full of ****.

 

exactly, why couldn't he have waited ONE f'n day to announce his comeback against Pacman.

 

your responses are terrible. this is such a waste of time.

Castillo? Yeah this was his last real challenge where he wasn't guaranteed to win. Props for those fights, they were great. That's what his career needs more of.

he will beat marquez. I have no doubt, do you? Neither does he, and that's why he took marquez up on the offer.