floyd V chavez at 140 or 135

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  1. JMP

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    Chavez's intelligent pressure/ring cutting skills see him edge out a decision.
     
  2. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :good
     
  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion

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    Uncle Roger wasn't half the defensive fighter nor had the chin of PBF nor was as smart as PBF was horrible comparison. PBF excels agaisnt that style the more pressure the better for him gives him more chances to counter the slower handed foe.:deal A guy like Hearns would have beaten PBF. A guy like Pea would have given PBF fits. A guy like SRL would have beaten PBF but not JCC and I've said this from day 1. I'm sorry he doesn't have the style, size or skills to do it.
     
  4. FinalBELL

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    Sure. Any fighter who loses can say the same thing. Is this documented anywhere or did he just say it kind of like the Marquez fight. So to answer your question, no I was not, and still am not convinced of that. Aware, sure. How do you know for certain? :deal
     
  5. Mr Butt

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  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion

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    What about his short arms lack of hand speed, average defense and jab or the fact history agrees with me? These things are very important and the main reason why he would lose that and the fact he was clowned by a elite defensive counter-puncher in Pea. He isn't going to outbox a master boxer like PBF. Not in a million years give up your fantasy it's not happening PBF is too good offensively and defensively for JCC.:deal
     
  7. Pimp C

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    It was well documented before and after the fight that he had a bad shoulder which he injured during camp. As hard as PBF trains I don't doubt it in either case.
     
  8. LP_1985

    LP_1985 JMM beat Pac-Man 3 Times Full Member

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    were talking bout floyd and jcc not the history of style clashes
     
  9. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A loss is a loss excuses are merely excuses
     
  10. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion

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    I know what we're talking about here an PBF holds the stylistic advantage here. How will JCC overcome the reach? How will he overcome the speed? How will he overcome the defense? How will he overcome the counter-punching? How will he overcome the movement? How will he overcome PBF's ring generalship? How will he overcome PBF's uncanny ability to adjust to all styles? The all are questions that must be answered.
     
  11. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The same way he overcame Taylor and his ***** uncle twice
     
  12. Pimp C

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    He didn't lose. He won a close fight that could have gone either way while injured but he did the right thing came back healthy and gave JLC a rematch.
     
  13. FinalBELL

    FinalBELL Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I am not saying who would win this fight; I think its a toss up with definite advantages going to Floyd. But to say Chavez would not have
    a chance is beyond me. Castillo, gave him two good fights. Some believe he won and some believe he lost; either way though very close fights.
    Chavez had a similar style to Castillo's but Chavez was a much, much better body puncher, and overall fighter. Bad shoulders and hands and
    everything else have always haunted Floyd at the right time.
     
  14. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chavez vacated his WBA and WBC lightweight titles in order to move up to the super lightweight division. In his next bout, he won the WBC super lightweight title by defeating Roger Mayweather for a second time. Mayweather did not come out of his corner after the tenth round, giving Chavez the TKO win. In 1989, Chávez defeated future champion Sammy Fuentes by tenth round TKO. In his next bout, he handed Alberto de las Mercedes Cortes (44-0) his first career loss by scoring a third round knockout.
    On March 17, 1990, he faced Meldrick Taylor (see Chavez versus Taylor), the undefeated IBF Junior Welterweight champion, in a title unification fight. While Taylor won the early rounds, Chávez rallied in the later rounds, scoring a knockdown with 16 seconds remaining in the final round. Although Taylor rose at the referee's count of six, he did not respond coherently to referee Richard Steele's questions, continued to hold the ropes all along, and Steele stopped the fight with only two seconds remaining. Many boxing fans and members of the media were outraged that Steele would stop a match that Taylor was winning with only two seconds left, while others felt that Steele was justified in stopping the fight given Taylor's condition and the fact that he was unable to respond to Steele before the conclusion of the match. Steele defended his decision by saying that his concern is protecting a fighter, regardless of how much time is left in the round or the fight. As Steele put it, "I stopped it because Meldrick had took a lot of good shots, a lot of hard shots, and it was time for it to stop. You know, I'm not the timekeeper, and I don't care about the time. When I see a man that has had enough, I'm stopping the fight."[6] Ring Magazine named it the "Fight of the Year" for 1990, and later the "Fight of the Decade" for the 1990s. While many hoped for an immediate rematch, Taylor moved up in weight in his next bout and the fighters did not meet again until 1994 when Chávez dominated and then knocked out a faded Taylor in nine rounds.
     
  15. Marnoff

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    Why does Floyd need to "hurt" Chavez? He can and would outbox him to a decision over twelve.