In this months ring mag there is an article about how floyd mayweather would do against 10 great past ww. Rules are 15 rds,6 ounce gloves,same day weigh in . The writers ww's and predictions were Sugar Ray Robinson: Robinson unanimous dec Henry Armstrong : Floyd close but clear dec Kid Gavilan : Floyd spilit decision Sugar Ray Leonard : Leonard unanimous dec Charley Burley : Burley close dec also drops floyd Jose Napoles : Floyd tko 14 cuts Carmen Basilio: Floyd unanimous dec Emile Griffith : Floyd unanimous dec Thomas Hearns : Hearns tko 13 Mikey Walker : floyd tko 10 cuts agree disagree
Agree with the picks, except maybe Galivan who would have the rangyness speed and skills to trouble Floyd
The whole thing is absurd. He knocks out noone and they have him koing Walker? Just another nuthugger article. Beyond the fact that Floyd wouldn't even fight these guys. He'd avoid them like everyone else he hasn't fought. :viking:viking:viking:viking
he doesn't ko walker his sharp accurate punches open cuts on walker cut prone skin.Floyds resume at ww is thin but there is no doubting his skills
Never, ever forget that "The Ring"" is the own personal rag of De La Hoya and therefore can be respected for NO opinions. Mayw. is a Golden Boy fighter and they aren't going to make their boy look bad. He has defeated NOONE at welter to warrant his inclusion in this group of names. Nigel Collins used to be a great boxing writer stationed in the A.C. and Philly area in the 70's and 80's. His reports of Fletcher's rise in "The Ring" back then was pure poetry. Sadly, he must need a buck, because no self-respecting writer would still work for "The Ring" after a promotor bought it. No matter what they say, it is a conflict of interest and in the olden days of 30 years ago, they would have been excuriated for doing so. The Ring" means nothing now, and their articles mean even less.. I used to write for a living and it sickens me.:viking
Its just ridiculous that they have a blown up Lightweight, who has only fought bums, shot and blown up fighters at WW can even be considered to compete with the greats at the weight The Ring is a the boxing equivalent of The Sun
What leads you to believe Walker was cut prone? He was stopped only once on cuts in over 160 fights. There is no doubting Mayweather's skills, but there's a whole lot of doubting that he'd be able to beat the greatest WW's of all time when he won't even take on the best of this mediocre era. Not to mention the struggles he's had in the past with fighters that pale in comparison to the ones in the article. There isn't a chance in hell I'd favor him over any of the guys listed, in fact I'd make him a heavy underdog in every bout.
Skills mean nothing w/out the resume. Hagler had skills but you can't say he beats the top LH.s when he doesn't fight them. Floy had a chance to fight really good fighters like Shane and Antonio, etc, but didn't. Walker fought the best ALL the time alot in 1 year after the other. No way he loses to a guy that HYPATHETICALLY would win a tough match and has never even been 15. Mayw. had trouble over 12 w/ Castillo. Walker is a whole nother ballgame, who won his title over one of the greatest BOXERS ever in Jack Britton. He may have been the best bodypuncher in history and would fear nothing in floyd's punches. He also was not a bleeder that had fights stopped on cuts like an Antuafermo. The whole article is bogus dude. I could say that Art Frias could have beaten Roberto Duran on cuts because Benitez cut him up. It's bull****. Mayw. record at welter is a joke. He avoids the best fighters and picks one legged horses instead of the mustangs like Shane, etc. And in the end, with the true boxing historians, his legacy will be **** anfd ruined just like Jones' was in the end. Jones keeps going because he knows people question his record because he avoide so many and cherry picked in his prime. the same is thought of Mayw. except by the nuthuggers and those who really have no grasp of the history of the sport. It SRL fought like Mayw. he never would have fought Duran, Benitez, Hearns Hagler, etc. and would have EASILY been undefeated. But he challenged himself and took his chances. Mayweather does not. and his legacy will show that.:viking:viking:viking
I know it may be my guts more than my head but I honestly can't quite see Floyd not being stopped against Robinson and Leonard. Two tall, lightning fast, dangerous welters that would beat the living hell out of him. Defensive skill aside. Imagine if instead of an older part-timer ODLH at 154, you had Robinson or Leonard in there with him. Knockout victories for both those men over the pretty boy.
BTW for book readers out there. I went book shopping this week and bought a book that was published in 2009 that must be new called "Sweet Thunder:The Life And Times OF Sugar Ray Robinson". It appears to be an indepth look at his career and on the back people say it is the first true indepth book about his career that wasn't worked on by the man himself. So for those that like bios of fighters, there it is. I have about 50 different bios of different fighters because I collect them and hopefully it will be an informative and good read.:viking:viking
not this bull**** arguement again. All papers are owned by someone. Would no self-respecting writer write for the times as its owned by murdoch. The Ring was critical of mayweather for the whole marquez event. It was critical of odlh decision to fight pac and the undercard of that fight and it has been levelheaded during the pac mayweather negotiations.Also some of the writers like dougie fisher could be seen as floyd haters. Do you have any evidence that in either its rankings or its articles it is pro gbp
I:vikingt is a conflict of interest and in the journalism field it should never, ever happen. That is not an opinion, it is a fact. I wrote for years for a paper in Cincinnati and that kind of stuff is always frowned upon. It is the equivalent of payolla in the record business.