Floyd vs Baldomir: Floyd throws 458 punches. Clottey threw 399 punches!

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  1. drkjck

    drkjck Active Member Full Member

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    clottey can throw way more punches than that if his opponent isnt pacquiao..
     
  2. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    i agree but pac's workrate is still good (around 600+punches) when he was fighting jmm where he had his last tough fight stylistically. pacquiao would have thrown less but his accuracy would shoot-up once clottey start opening up more. clottey had just wrong set of gameplan for winning. he probably thinks that pac would outpunch himself late in the fight and just picks-up the scrap.
     
  3. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee Loyal Member

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    imagine what will happen to floyd's hands against Manny's big head.
     
  4. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    You cant tell whatever you want about Pac i dont give a ****,you must have me confused with your ****** ass.

    one only has to look at one of your posts that look like love letters to fraud to come to the conclusion that you dream of having the guys babies.
     
  5. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol:

    Man you are the best combo, stubborn and stupid
     
  6. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    hahaahaahah
     
  7. nipplefloss

    nipplefloss Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The other difference is that when other guys fight Floyd their workrate drops. Against Clottey it seems like people's workrate rises. Margarito set a compubox record and Pacquiao probably set a personal record as well. Even Cotto, with the giant cut over one eye, threw more against Clottey than against Shane.

    Which is why this comparison is meaningless. No one will know how the current version of Floyd deals with a high activity fighter until he fights one. Mosley should answer some of those questions.
     
  8. Stezzie

    Stezzie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There is really no relation between Clottey's approach and Floyds approach. In your arguement your simplifying everything to the point where you leave out important factors. First off Clottey is stationary and Floyd isnt. When you are stationary you give your opponent an easier target and the opportunity to land more punches. Clottey did need to throw more because he needed to land between Pacs assault. Pac will not throw 1000 punches against Floyd and he won't land at even the low percentage he landed against Clottey.

    If you do not use foot work, you are not elusive, or extrememly fast or not a thunderous puncher then you need to compensate somewhere. He needed to throw more...and try to impose is will/size on Pac and if he gets knocked out he does. But he would have given himself the opportunity to win. That seems like common sense...

    Floyd has a number of ways to win the fight with Pac...he doesnt just have to open up... Thats the difference between him and Clottey thats why the point of your thread is flimsy at best...
     
  9. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Well, we know high activity guys pressure him and he generally takes care of them later in fights.

    I.e. chavez/hatton/castillo(II)


    So if pac doesn't relent?
     
  10. hagman1989

    hagman1989 the boxing site , try it Full Member

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  11. BOSTONREDSOX

    BOSTONREDSOX The Ghost Full Member

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  12. threethirteen

    threethirteen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mayweather has been low output since his stint at LWW. He's a pot-shotter, partly due to his fragile hands and partly due to his cautious style.

    What he lacks in output though, he makes up for in defensive ability and accuracy. He doesn't need to throw so much because he's landing most of what he throws, the opponent usually isn't.

    But he has flaws - especially against fast southpaws. Zab was giving him fits early and Manny's a LOT better than Zab.
     
  13. nipplefloss

    nipplefloss Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're assuming that those guys relented, and that Floyd had nothing to do with it. Chavez got stopped. Hatton got stopped. Castillo didn't gas, he simply had no answers for what Floyd was doing.

    It's not like any of them just decided they were done after round 7 and tried to coast. There are two people in a fight. Hard to analyze what one is doing without looking at the other.
     
  14. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you can call the pac defeat his first real loss in many ways
    baldo - dq
    cotto - debatable
    margocheato - broke his hand
     
  15. nipplefloss

    nipplefloss Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He didn't break his hand against Margarito.