Floyd vs combination punchers

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  1. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Is it just me or is Floyd more in his element as a fighter when the other fighters are noted for their offensive combination punching?

    I just had a review over the Duran vs Hearns fight (someone posted it) and noted how easily Hearns was hitting Duran without much coming back. He looked extremely fast, strong and mpressive in decimating Duran in that fight and no doubt if he was allowed to throw as many shots against Floyd, I think he'd KO Floyd too.

    But would he be allowed to throw that many shots? Floyd's defense would protect him from most of them, I think the susceptibility he has for the overhand right would mean he gets hit, but would he work off of Hearn's punching and counter him enough that he stops this from happening?

    I think the one thing you have to look at when judging how Floyd would do against these impressive flashy speed fighters of that era is that they probably don't get off as many punches as they were used to against Floyd, that they take more precision punches and that Floyd's cautious style may ultimately allow him to pick them apart.

    But boy how I wish Floyd would adopt a more aggressive punching style ala Hearns when he's so far ahead of the other guy. Hearns was a beast.
     
  2. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd tends to take away the ability of his opponents to get their punches going. He is CONSTANTLY making slight adjustments, movements, to control distance. When Mosley would come forward looking to get his shots off, notice the subtle steps back that Floyd takes, just to find that range that he likes to keep and to keep Mosley from getting off... then pop a jab to disrupt Mosley entirely. Great stuff.
     
  3. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    I get the feeling that very few fighters can exist on a level with Floyd if he gets into that routine. Calzaghe, Hopkins and Toney all had this ability to, to destroy the other fighters boxing and make it a muddy track for them.

    His precision punches ensure even if he's not a big puncher, his punches are definitely felt and the way he moves and counters must make it nerve racking when throwing shots.

    I just get the feeling in a fight against the likes of Hearns, if it gets past two to three rounds, Floyd would be in the position of nullifying the weapons, very rarely being hit and destroying Hearns' boxing.

    Sugar Ray is a different story - he's an adaptable fighter who could destroy other peoples boxing too.
     
  4. TheGreat

    TheGreat Boxing Junkie banned

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    Floyd would get KO'd by a prime Hearns, nothing against Floyd but Hearns had too many advantages to be ignored.
     
  5. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Height, power, early starter.

    Hearns is the type of guy that definitely could destroy Floyd early, but like I say, if it goes past two to three rounds, the tables are turned, Floyd would win that fight in my view.

    Everyone believes the key to beating Floyd is work-rate and a crisp jab. I think work-rate is over-rated against him, the more you throw, the more he counters, the more you hurt.
     
  6. Kel1981

    Kel1981 P4P No.1 Full Member

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    Controlled aggression or counter punching is the only way to beat him. Castillo and Zab gave him problems in both areas, it just needs to be sustained in Zabs case.
     
  7. BENNY BLANCO

    BENNY BLANCO R.I.P. Brooklyn1550 Full Member

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    Problem is that no fighter with the exception of Barkley has won a decision over Hearns, and Barkley just had Tommy's number.
     
  8. TheGreat

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    Hearns had speed to go along with that length, I just don't see PBF taking his shots all night, and he would definitely eat some bombs from Hearns.
     
  9. hallelujahholla

    hallelujahholla Original Gangsta Full Member

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    Floyd may be the best ever TECHNICALLY...it by no means he is the best fighter ever...when he says he is better than Ali and Sugar Ray Robinson he is wrong...but his knowledge of the game thats been instilled in him since birth i think may make him the best fighter ever TECHNICALLY.
     
  10. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Zab definitely gave him an early scare but did we just witness in that fight what we saw in the Mosley fight and pinned it on Zab's notorious stamina issues?

    Early rounds, Zab was hitting Floyd, giving him all sorts of trouble - Round 3 and 4, the fight was getting even, every round after that was a schooling from Floyd.

    Castillo, that first fight, Floyd was suffering from injuries, the second fight gave you an idea of how the first would have gone without.
     
  11. di tullio

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    there's nothing floyd could have done to counter hearns' right hand. not to mention many of the few times floyd has been caught clean, it's been with feints to the body. hearns would not let floyd get the comfort he needs to adapt.
     
  12. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Let's face it, you either got KO'ed or KO'ed Hearns. He was a massive puncher with a questionable chin.

    I think Floyd COULD KO Hearns, despite not being a massive puncher, solely because Hearns isn't the best known chin in the world. You'd never call Iran Barkley a huge puncher would you?
     
  13. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not a chance in hell.
     
  14. di tullio

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    castillo fought the perfect fight against floyd that night. if floyd's shoulder was hurting it was probably from getting hit.
     
  15. BENNY BLANCO

    BENNY BLANCO R.I.P. Brooklyn1550 Full Member

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    No but I know for a fact that Barkley is a much harder puncher than Floyd overall due Barkley size and being a middleweight who won titles at 168 and 175. Bad parallel on your part.