Floyd vs Juan 2

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by LE0N, Jan 25, 2012.

  1. LE0N

    LE0N Guest

    So Leon made a thread the other day, asking ESB, who they thought was the smarter fighter between the two, and in a landslide, Floyd kicked Juan's AZZ again, this time in the "smarts" department.

    What Leon noticed, was all the excuses that the Juan fans were giving. So if these two were to fight again, would it be any different? Will the Juan fans say it'll be different since he has a new workout regimen (with a known steroid trainer), a new diet (no more quall eggs and urine), shouldn't be screwed over on the weight (no catchweight nonsence) and will be back to being the counter-puncher (instead of the aggressor)? Leon say's Floyd would give another AZZ kicking
     
  2. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2009
    Messages:
    31,381
    Likes Received:
    1,136
    It would be different, a bit more competitive, but JMM is still to small to fairly compete against legitimate welter-weights and would still lose, especially to someone with the style and dimensions of Floyd.

    Intelligence is just one aspect of fighting and isn't enough to predict a match-up. Prime for Prime at a much lower weight, it would be a much closer fight.
     
  3. johnnykoolkid

    johnnykoolkid Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2010
    Messages:
    2,109
    Likes Received:
    0
    daaaaaaaaaaamn Leon, you usually make good sensible posts, but man, why the hate for JMM?????
     
  4. LE0N

    LE0N Guest

    Look who's the first to respond. Whenever there's a thread about Juan, in comes you. How would it be "a bit more competitive" if you say at the same time he is "still too small to failry compete" So which is it, it will be competitive or he will get his AZZ kicked, again
     
  5. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2009
    Messages:
    31,381
    Likes Received:
    1,136
    Because Floyd nut-huggers who pretend to know more about boxing than tey do like to hate on Marquez and act like Floyd is just a "bigger better version", which just isn't the truth.

    What don't you understand about the post? He's too small to compete fairly against someone with Floyd's dimensions at this age and weight, but he would do slightly better. Can you grasp that?
     
  6. LE0N

    LE0N Guest

    No hate, those are what his fans are saying, and now Leon is asking those same fans to break down how things would be different, second time around. Juan is great, he kicked emmanuels AZZ 3 times:yep
     
  7. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2004
    Messages:
    42,723
    Likes Received:
    271
    I'm a ***** (ask on the Classic), and Juan is smarter but Floyd is more skilled. Floyd wins easily again but Juan is better at analysing boxers using film, Floyd is a ****ing ******ed outside of the boxing ring, in it he know's what he's doing better than anyone today based on his techniques and physical abilities. Watching it on film or doing anything else in life he's a ****ing ****. He's a decent enough bloke, I've met him in person, but smart, no not really. Then again he's allot smarter than Pacquaio, but not smart enough to figure out Pacquaio has no chance against an elite pure boxer

    Oh and Floyd doesn't use the angles as smart as JMM either.
     
  8. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2009
    Messages:
    28,924
    Likes Received:
    20
    I admire marquez, but he will always get schooled against floyd, at 130/135 he might do better but I honestly feel he cant win that fight.
    Floyd has size advantages and is the better counterpuncher, marquez is a smart dude he figured out what he had to do but he couldnt do because of floyds reflex, superior athletic ability and height and reach advantages.
     
  9. LE0N

    LE0N Guest

    He is a bigger better version. Both defensive fighters, both counter punches, Floyd is just better than him in all those aspects. Not saying they are the same, but Floyd is better in everything he does, a reason Juan got his AZZ kicked.

    What Leon was trying to tell you is you said the second fight will "be a bit more competitive" and quickly after you said but he's too small, etc. So Leon is asking, how will the fight be "a bit more competitive" if you've already made excuses. If he's too small to compete fairly against someone with Floyd's dimensions at this age and weight, how would he do slightly better. Can you grasp that?
     
  10. texboxing00

    texboxing00 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2010
    Messages:
    7,152
    Likes Received:
    18
    Im a marquez fan and believe floyd will ud marquez, sounds like u just have it in for jmm.
     
  11. LE0N

    LE0N Guest

    Good responses. So even with all the excuses the Juan fans make about "bad training camp" "bad diet" "screwed on the scales" "wasn't fighting out he usually does" etc, and how those mistakes will be corrected, you two still agree with Leon and how Juan still gets his AZZ kicked even with a steroid trainer, better diet, making weight, and being the counterpuncher
     
  12. sbbigmike

    sbbigmike Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2010
    Messages:
    5,847
    Likes Received:
    0
    Floyd Ko's him this time and not toy with him, with JMM being essentially a free agent, and no longer being GB fighter
     
  13. LE0N

    LE0N Guest

    No, Juan is great. The thread Leon made the other day, had a lot of the Juan fans giving excuse after excuse on why Floyd kicked his AZZ. So Leon was just bringing up the point to them that if they were to fight again, how would it be different this time. Juan is great, he beat Katsidis and Diaz and everyone else in his way.
     
  14. LE0N

    LE0N Guest

    Instead of making excuses on why Floyd kicked that AZZ, how bout just admit that Juan lost to the better fighter
     
  15. larrysmith

    larrysmith Guest

    what in the first fight would even make someone want a rematch??it was embarrassing