Floyd vs Pac PPV History

Good point

 

I could see him doing close, but not better than FMJ/ODLH numbers had he beaten Marg and faced ODLH.

You are putting a dub on it. There ain't a Rican that bad since Tito!

 

Cotto don't talk enough **** to break FMJ/ODLH.

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They've been plotting to make history together ever since they was kids, son.

 

What fact? Without proper nuance and context numbers are meaningless; futile even.

The essence of the original post is to not only describe Floyd's overall ppv superiority over Pac but to point out his ability to generate higher figures against common opponents. The reason why the argument doesn't necessarily work is because of the disparity in weight (the divisions in which the the fighters competed in) and the drawing power of their common opponents at the time in which Floyd and Pac faced them.

Again, Pacquiao was able to successfully generate respectable numbers (record breaking against JMM in their 2nd fight) while competing in the lower weight classes which typically get shunned by the casual fans. It's a notable point considering that Floyd didn't make his ppv debut until he fought at 140 lbs. It's also an interesting considering that many fans believe that Floyd was in his absolute prime while fighting in the lower weights prior to his ascension as a PPV attraction.

Secondly, Hatton and ODLH were not only physically shot (according to many) by the time they stepped in the ring against Pac, but they were also, relatively speaking, promotionally shot as well. To compare Hatton's promotional value while undefeated and original, (with American viewers), to his value when he faced Pac is not a balanced comparison. When you consider that the novelty of Hatton's status was undeniably tainted after suffering a ko defeat to Floyd it becomes clear that his marketability was inherently diminished by the time Pac fought him. The same goes for De La Hoya whose fight against Pac wasn't even considered by many reporters as a credible match-up.

 

See I told ya'll...Dismiss and discredit...:rofl

 

The irony is jawing.

 

The problem is, you are not looking at the circumstances behind those numbers.

DLH-PBF vs DLH-Pac, one was the world awaits, one was a circus act.

PBF-JMM, Pac-JMM, did you just compare the 2? Credibility goes out the window right here.

Diaz-Baldomir, 1 got good promotion behind it, countdown etc, Pac-Diaz didnt even have a countdown...what does that say? 1 fight was also at LW, the other at WW...higher weights of equivalent pull has generally pushed better numbers.

PBF-Hatton, Pac-Hatton - Good comparison, 75k difference, Pac-Hatton was when the economy went bust and and Hatton was no longer undefeated. 75k difference under those circumstances sounds about right.

Mosley-Cotto - Again good comparison, 175k difference, thats not much and consider the amount of promotion behind pbf-mosley.

So your only 2 decent comparisons show comparable numbers, with even then, PBF still having the slight edge to pull better numbers due to economy or more money towards promotion. Its as even as it gets.

Honestly, comparing numbers outright is stupid. Might aswell say Mcneely was just as big a draw as PBF and bigger than Pac because he did 2mil ppv's. Afterall...numbers dont lie....

 

Well said.

 

Very very good post.

Also consider the difference in promotions. The DLH fights are definitely incomparable because of like was mentioned earlier, physical and thus, promotional damage from losing to Mayweather (You can say Pac fought a shot DLH, or didnt fight a shot DLH, you can't have both). Consider this along with the fact that 24/7 BEGAN with Floyd/DLH, and thats a cause for huge numbers, rapidly dissipating as the fighters are "reintroduced" in the future for a much duller hype.

Marquez fights, pre and post DLH. A huge difference in exposure between the two.

If you look at the numbers, Morales/Barrera/Marquez did respectively similar to Gatti/Judah/Baldomir. Baldomir was a man at the weight. Diaz was definitely not and had no countdown and stuff. Everyone else had decent exposure.

Pac has more PPV fights under his belt because lets face it, he came from a poorer background and needed money sooner so was ill primed for PPV back then, so the ratio of fights to revenue would of course be skewed.

Hatton fights, were relatively similar, unless you wanna go menstrual over 70k, also considering hattons "DAMAGED GOODZ RITE?"

Not even Marquez/Clottey is a good comparison because clottey has ZERO following in the face of a Mexican star who's proven himself in wars and in prior ppvs.

Regarding Cotto/Mosley, Pac/Cotto was to be an explosive fight and had hype on its own, considering cotto has some more ppv value, but Floyd/Mosley had very heavy promotion, people were claiming this to be a superfight and that Floyd had a very good chance of going down. Lets see... which should do more... a super fight, or not a superfight.:think

Which all comes back to the fact that people bring in numbers but don't understand the full context which surrounds them. When put in perspective they do relatively similar, but I say just throw floyd a ****in bone and give him 52/48, he does more promotional work outside the ring anyway.

 

Don't include DELA HOYA'S fights,coz neither FLOYD or PACQUIAO was the draw that time.:deal
the number will look like this:

Floyds PPV buys 6.8m = $366.5m revenue
Floyd/DLH ppv -2.4m =$136.6m revenue
______ _______
4.4m =$229.9m revenue

PAC's ppv buys 6.3m = $324.3m revenue
PAC/DLH ppv -1.25m = $$70m revenue
______ ________
5.05m =$254.3m revenue

 

CMON GUYS NUMBERS DONT LIE:deal

 

It's obvious Mayweathers the bigger draw. Coupled with the fact that he fought a more difficult and way higher regarded fighter in his last fight it means 55-45 isn't unreasonable but still he should realize that either way 50-50 vs means he'll get WAY more than he could against anyone else anyways and if that's a deal breaker he'd be ******ed not to take it.

 

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Numbers also dont tell the story.

 

I was being sarcastic lol theres a post right below yours... :deal