Floyd vs Pacquiao advantages/disadvantages

If you did this exact same thing when Floyd fought maidana... It would seem maidana wouldn't have a chance... But maidana gave Floyd a lot of problems

 

I would like to hear your rationale for giving the size advantage to Pacquiao, but the weight advantage to Mayweather? :huh

 

Search in google, "Pacquiao bone structure"

It should be the first option to click. The site is badlefthook. The man behind the quantitative study can explain it a lot better than me; however, if any of the science confuses you just let me know, and I'll break it down in simpler terms. As a lover of science, it's truly fascinating.

 

Skeleton. Mayweather has more muscle. Pacquiao has the bigger frame, internally.

 

Ganster - Pac by Far

Real dude - Pac by Far

Dishin out Severe ass beatins - Pac by Far

Walkin round with machine guns - Pac by Far

Can hold onto a woman - Pac by Far

Ain't gay - Pac by Far

What else do you need to know?

 

http://www.armoryblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/manny-pacquiao-shooting-gun.jpg

 

Floyd... Fights in Vegas
Floyd... Most likely Bayless will be ref
Floyd... Vegas homies will be judges
Floyd... NSAC Nuff said

Manny ... Has the heart courage & cojones to overcome all Floyd's advantages & knock his ass out

 

....................Speed - Pac
.............Skills/Style - Floyd
...................Stance - even
..................Stamina - Pac
................Workrate - Pac
................Accuracy - Floyd
.......................Chin - Floyd
.....................Heart - Pac
..............Experience - Floyd
....................Reach - Floyd
...........Height/Taller - Floyd
Quality of Opponents - Pac
.......Ring Generalship - Floyd
.........Corner/Trainer - Pac
.......................Size - Floyd
.......................Age - Floyd (Pac's style ages quicker)
...................Weight - Floyd
....................Power - Pac
...................Literacy- Pac

 

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THe visual test does'nt backup your assertion.

Look at the shoulders up top? Mayweather is definitely the naturally bigger fighter.


You want to talk about Mayweather carring more muscle, Pacquiao carries all muscle in his legs. They're massive and alot of his weight is from his legs. Mayweather's weight is more proportionate.

 

Did you read the article? It says the visual test is deceiving. Wrist size correlates with how large your skeleton is. Pacquiao's wrist size is 8 in, on par with heavy weights. Mayweather's is much smaller but is the correct size for him. Pacquiao being "secretly" bigger than his opponents could explain how he's been able to have so much success fighting these bigger guys.

On the legs, yeah. Mayweather seems to carry more muscle in his upper torso, while Pac holds a lot of muscle in his legs. This is probably why he's been able to maintain his foot speed and "freshness" of his legs.

I think this gives more credit to Mayweather. Pacquiao has been able to do a lot of his accomplishments because he is physically a freak of nature. Mayweather is relatively normal body-wise, and he has still been able to accomplish all he has.

 

This won't come down to physical attributes. Both guys are way too good. We're used to seeing them fight guys at least a few levels below them. It will be totally different when they face a fighter with comparable skill/experience levels.

It's gonna come down to a few factors:

1. Level of shot-ness. Both guys have been gameplanning and visualizing this fight for at least 8 years. They will be at the absolute peak of their potential on fight night. Neither guy is going to have an off night or be under-prepared. If Floyd comes in BETTER than he has recently and Pac comes in the same, Floyd should outclass him. This would involve Floyd employing a TON of ring movement for the entire fight, which we haven't seen in years. If Pac comes in BETTER than we've seen him recently and Floyd comes in the same, Pac will steamroll him. This would involve a constant attack and a lot of dynamic footwork for 12 full rounds, which we haven't seen in years. If BOTH guys come in better or the same, then it goes to the next aspect...

2. Game Plan. If Floyd tries to figure it out on the fly like he usually does, he will lose. People don't seem to understand that MARCOS MAIDANA won at least 5 rounds off of him. Guerrero won a handful. Ortiz wasn't looking too bad. Hatton had some rounds. De la Hoya won at least half the fight. Pacquiao is not those guys. He's MUCH better and MUCH more athletic. If Floyd gives him rounds, Pacquiao will take them, and there is no way Floyd will dominate so much that Pacquiao won't pick up some rounds that Floyd doesn't intentionally hand him.

Awkward fighters cause Floyd problems and take time to figure out. Manny is extremely awkward. Southpaws cause Floyd problems. Manny is a southpaw. Floyd likes a slow pace. Manny fights a fast pace. Floyd likes slow fighters. Manny is just about as fast as Floyd.

All of this spells trouble unless Floyd comes in having figured Manny out beforehand. For all the talk about Floyd's intelligence, he's an experience fighter who relies on feel to win. He has to get a feel for the range and timing, and he automatically responds to the opponents tactics through his vast experience bank. I don't think he is that much of a thinker in the ring; he's on autopilot. Manny is similar, but the difference is that Manny has a team that does the thinking for him. Floyd does not.

This is why Floyd drops multiple rounds in all of his fights. I recently looked at the statistics, and Manny scores more knockdowns, more shutouts, and has a higher percentage of rounds won than Mayweather. This is because of gameplanning. This is where Manny has the advantage. He will automatically win rounds because Floyd starts slow, takes breaks, does not have the ability to fight hard for 12, and probably does not have the ability to shut Manny down. On top of that, there will be a number of close rounds where Floyd's clean wok is offset by Manny's volume and control of the center. There may be clear Pacquiao rounds, but very few rounds will be clearly dominated by Floyd. Anyone can win, but it seems that Manny is going to get a few rounds in the bank just because that's how Floyd fights, so Floyd will automatically be at a disadvantage which will be much harder to overcome against this class of fighter. Here's the round categories:

A. 3-5 rounds that Floyd routinely gives up while learning the timing and range of the opponent. If he gave 3 to Guerrero and 5 to Maidana, it's almost definite that Pacquiao will get at least that many given his superiority in speed, experience, power, and overall skill along with his southpaw advantage.

B. 2-3 rounds that Pacquiao wins by landing massive power shots and/or hurting Floyd. Maidana, Judah, and Mosley were able to land bombs. You can bet that Pacquiao will have similar success. Again, he's a dynamic, awkward, highly skilled southpaw.

C. 4-7 rounds that depend on what you like: Floyd's clean counters and lead rights, or Pacquiao's activity, control of the center and flurries against Mayweather on the ropes.

If we go off recent form and common opponents, this is Pac's fight to lose. We can't discount the fact that Floyd has been planning this fight for years and decided to take it now, though. He might come in with a solid gameplan right out the gate and employ lateral movement for the entire fight without ever getting tired or losing his focus. That's why this fight is intriguing....it's so huge and there's been such a long buildup that both guys are going to be at the absolute peak of their abilities.

 

Pac - power
angles
foot and hand speed
throws many more punches
punches much harder

Void - Void can't lose a decision in Vegas, the judges, referee and boxing commission belong to him..............I really hope there will be a level playing field, but don't count on it. The ref will do what he can to help Void out as needed, the judges have already filled out their cards...............Pac must knock Void out...............Pac needs a knockout to get a draw...................it's sad...............