How so? Prime Oscar got beat(was given gift decision) by a past his prime coked up Whitaker. PBF has just as good defence as Whitaker and a far better offence. I think PBF would take it.
I'm just going off what we saw in the fight. Whitaker and Floyd are similar, but obviously not the same fighter. I scored Hoya/Floyd a draw and so did a great deal others. When Oscar was actively pressing with behind his jab, Floyd had no answer...end of story really. Even Floyds most die hard claim Oscar slowed down. A "prime" Hoya wouldn't have slowed down.
But Hoya always gassed.......its like a trademark for him. You seriously scored the PBF-Oscar fight a draw? Really?
Really genious? Shut him out? Floyd only started winning that fight when Oscar started posing in front of him. Have Gaygb bend you over facing the tv next time he watches it so you can see for yourself :good
The way Oscar beat Sweet Pea and Ike Quartey, he simply loses to Mayweather the very same way he lost now. I mean, what could De La Hoya do back then that he didn't do against Floyd now - more pressure, more missing ( and finishing) efforts, faking even more and bombing away with wild left hooks than he did with Quartey, keep up the left lead for 8 or 9 rounds like he did against Tito and Shane?...Oscar is a technical fighter who beats smaller pressure fighters, brawlers and sluggers like JCC, Mayo and Vargas, not better technicians or much stronger men.
So because YOU scored it a draw means that that's truth, according to you? Waahaha Oscars jab was about non-existant in this fight as I am watching it again now (I still blame Roach for not even TELLING oscar he should use his jab. That is called one of the best trainers:huh)
Ok, what was your score?Waaaaahaha atsch The few times he did throw it, Floyd was befuddled. A prime Oscar would throw his jab more, move better, be quicker on his feet, have faster hands and more fluent combinations. He would throw more and have enough left down the stretch to take the fight. :deal
Yeah, Roach was absolutley **** in this fight. I can't believe he couldn't see that the jab was being effective. He wasn't even offering good advice to Oscar in what to do. Just saying well done, well done, Or we need a strong next round. He was really ineffective and not helpful at all, if Oscar wanted to win he should have stuck with Floyd Snr.
Ok fine. So a prime Whitaker and a prime chavez wouldn't do any better against Oscar. I'm ok with that then. Floyd still beats Oscar in his prime. Oscar still beats those two in their primes. If not, WTF is the difference, please tell me :good
No no, A totally past his prime drug riddled Whitaker gave prime Oscar hell and made him look totally foolish in places. A prime Whitaker would have won more convincingly. Floyd has equal defense and better offense than Whitaker, I feel a Prime PBF (hes prime now) beats a prime Oscar. I mean just look at the last couple of rounds, PBF was casually walking around the ring potshotting Oscar at will and in no distress at all, it was slower than a sparring session, Floyd wasn't even troubled last couple of rounds.
Floyd looked like **** in that fight. He did nothing but backpeddle and throw one punch at a time. On Purpose? Oscar may have not been able to do much to floyd, but Floyd couldn't do **** to oscar really. **** man, this isn't the amateurs, this isn't a point sparring session or a game of ****ing tag. The way floyd fought was shameful. Oscar just didn't have enough to take the fight to him more successfully. I'll say it again FLOYD ISN'T SWEET PEA!!!!! Watch the fight, when Oscar came in behind his jab, floyd backed right up into the ropes and allowed Oscar to flurry on him......landed or not, those punches score points and a "prime" Oscar, meaning the best version of him, would be able to do that all fight. He would also be faster in the middle of the ring. About Floyd "making the adjustments"......which was "to start countering" like that was a plan B he had to adjust to atsch I could turn right around and say Oscars jab started getting countered because he lost some steam and got lazy with it. :deal
Slurp slurp :-( Oh no, he used the "Kaygbs semen has more boxing knowldege blah blah blah....." gets me every time
Well Floyd ALWAYS fights like the way he fought Oscar, infact Lampley, Merchant and Steward even talked about how Floyd boxed during the fight. He is an extremley accurate but very low output fighter. He's a potshotter, potshot, move. Potshot, move. Potshot, move. He very rarely throws combinations in any of his fights. Infact, he doesn't throw alot of punches in general throughout the course of a fight but of the punches he does throw, half of them land and land clean. The reason why the fight was at such a slow pace was because Floyd made it that way, Oscar wasn't aggressive enough and allowed Floyd to fight at his own pace and control the tempo of the fight. Floyd landed more punches in the fight, landed the more effective clean punches in the fight and generally dictated the pace of the fight by using his ring generalship. Thats what won him the fight.
Fight Zab to get used to floyds style? Good idea :good After like 20 ****ing years in the sport and championships in a 1/2 dozen weight divisions its good to see YOU know whats best for him :rofl :rofl :rofl