Floyd vs Southpaws

Floyd has triumphed over every Southpaw, true -- he's still had issues with them, though. It's a bit silly to try and find excuses for every incident. Judah puzzled him for a few rounds, scored a knockdown that wasn't ruled and then stunned him with a big left. You say that Judah knew Floyd's style from sparring, but you forget that this means Floyd also knew Judah's style -- if anything, this arrangement would seem to favour the smarter, more skilled Floyd, who should have come in and dominated from round one. Judah is one of the dumbest fighters around, someone with physical gifts but no proper guidance or mental abilities of his own.

Floyd beat Corley up, but he took a monster shot beforehand, and he looked really out of it for a few moments. That is obviously uncommon -- in fact, when considering Floyd's superb defence, it's a glaring moment on his record. Floyd rarely gets hit with flush punches at all, let alone massive ones that seriously hurt him.

Add that to Floyd Sr not wanting his son to fight southpaws, and it's not hard to conclude that Jr DOES have some issues with them, more than he would against orthodox guys.

And honestly...why do people feel the need to 'defend' Floyd on this point? Do you guys realise how many fighters have trouble with Southpaws? It's not only in boxing -- even in sports like fencing, if you're dealing with a leftie you can find yourself struggling in ways you never did before. (Some people have to adjust and use different parries, like the circular one instead of the usual one that works so well against orthodox people.) The reason is simple -- you fight against orthodox people so much that you get thrown off balance when you come up against the rare leftie, where everything is reversed. Your usual moves may not work as well, you may find yourself employing different strategies to land punches, you can end up tangled and falling over, etc. It's just awkward.

Floyd having issues with Southpaws doesn't make him a bad fighter -- it makes him human. When you consider the fact that Pac is also just as fast, throws combinations, has superb stamina and good power...you understand why Floyd Sr is nervous for his son. Floyd should be the favourite against Pac, but it's a risky fight. No other way of putting it. Getting in the ring with a Southpaw is awkward enough without having to deal with those sort of physical gifts.

 

More double standards. Judah loses to Baldomir before Floyd beats him while Judah is on a 4 fight winless streak, but he was "peaked" when Mayweather fought him.

sure.

 

Very well put. If Floyd thought he could win, being that he fights for "money" and is all about money, we would have seen this fight already.

 

I think Floyd does have problem with southpaws. Judah was giving him a run for his money for 4 rounds. Imagine what Pacman can do.

But thats IMO. He never has fought a top fighter in his prime southpaw. Pacman/Floyd will answer this question if it ever gets done.

 

quit whining about double standards as if both these fighters dont get blasted with them. Pac is only getting the hate Floyd has been getting for years. Its called being on top.

Pac fans honestly act like there is no wrong with this guy....its crazy

 

Pac haters are obsessed with trying to tear him down as if what he's done is no big deal... That's what's really crazy.

then when someone tells it like it is, he is told "quit whining about double standards"

wtf

 

Cotto has less problems against Southpaws. He stopped both Judah and Corrley and could not see Manny's punches.

 

Thats a very good point. Never thought about that.
Cotto has fought about 4-5 southpaws and stopped them both. Yet he could even see Pacman's punches.

 

no people have legit questions as to the manner in which he has accomplished these great feats. dont sit here and act like everything he has done is all peachy his shyt stinks too.

Like you said you think your calling it like it is thats fine but not everybody thinks Pac has done everything right.

telling it like it is...lmao....boy stop

 

Funny thing about the OP in this thread is that it makes just as good a case for him having trouble with southpaws as it does the opposite. But truth be told, the fights referenced only "prove" the point so far anyhow. Chop is a rugged dude who was a hell of a lot closer to his prime when Floyd fought him. So he got hit, big deal, it's boxing. And besides being a lefty, the biggest thing Zab brought to the table was his speed. Being the guy who holds the speed edge 99% of the time, I think it takes Floyd a few rounds to adjust his tactics against guys who are faster than him. See against Mosley recently.

It's not Manny being a lefty that interests me in the ever increasingly mythical fight between these two. It's whether or not Floyd's adjustments work against a guy who is fast, and who doesn't tire, and who is trained by someone who is a master at emphasizing a fighter's weaknesses. Because sure, Floyd will be open for Manny's straight left, but Manny will be just as open for Floyd's straight right. Odds are a fight of this level gets decided by tactics a little more complex than that.

 

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floyd is so skinny there. no doubt he's on HGH now.

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

So calling DeMarcus Corley a journeyman is ''telling it like it is''? Please, dont try and give me that ****. Pac haters are bad, like you said, but Pac huggers such as yourself cant seem to take another rational opinion. I've been told that I ''hated Pac'' because I thought someone calling the Margarito fight FOTY was ludicris. They're as bad as each other, so dont start crying about ****ing double standards, it doesn't hold any weight.

 

you making a big deal out of calling Corley a journeyman is pretty ****ing pedantic. Call him a gatekeeper if you like, but he's no more than that and he never has been. If you think that Corley is some kind of perrenial contender then we don't see eye to eye on his status at all.