Floyd vs The 1980's WW, and the Wilfred Benitez scenario.

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  1. hussleman

    hussleman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I hear all the time by the "haters" and "so called" experts that Floyd would have lost to the 1980's WW, like Leonard and Hearns and possibility Duran. I think Floyd is better than one of the greatest WW of all time in Wilfred Benitez. Wilfred Benitez, beat Duran gave SRL one his hardest fights and lost a MD too Hearns. Floyd is quicker, stronger, defensive and has a better jab then Wilfred Benitez. In saying all of that Floyd holds his own if not beat SRL, Hearns, Duran and Wilfred Benitez especially if their not on the A+ game. I believe Floyd beats Wilfred Benitez and Duran at 147. Those are just the facts :deal!
     
  2. Ringnut

    Ringnut Boxing Addict Full Member

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    how are your opinion in the results of fights that will never happen "facts?"

    or are you saying that it's a fact that those are your opinions?
     
  3. hussleman

    hussleman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The fact is Floyd is better than Wilfred Benitez! Wilfred Benitez, gave SRL, Hearns and Duran great fights so why couldn't Floyd do just as good if not better. Wilfred Benitez beat Duran.
     
  4. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I just rewatched the Benitez v SRL fight a few weeks ago. It was not that close. SRL was clearly beating him the entire fight, then ended it. Benitez was a big WW. Floyd would have his hands full, to say the least.
     
  5. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I don't favor any of the welters today against SRL, Hearns, Benitez or Duran.
     
  6. COLD-HARD-TRUTH

    COLD-HARD-TRUTH Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd would have never, repeat.. never have fought any of those guys. He would have ducked and dodged Hearns and Leonard just like he has Pacquiao, Cotto, Margarito and every other welterweight that he's fought the last few years that wasn't almost 40 or moving up from a lower weight class.... the fact of the matter is, Floyd hasn't challeneged himself against anyone who actually had a chance of beating him. He retired instead of fighting the undefeated Cotto a couple years ago... and he'd rather beat his baby mama than fight Pacquiao. Why can't you guys realize that Mayweather is a Fraud. He's talented yes, but if he was a trully great fighter, he'd challenge himself and fight the best.
     
  7. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ATG Natural Super-Feather vs ATG Natural Welterweights.

    I'll go with the natural welterweights. Floyd would have has hands full with all those guys. I don't think he would have a chance against SRL or Hearns to win, and it would only be competitive because his defense would allow him to stay in the fight.

    Duran would be a great match-up of styles, but again, I don't see how the Duran that beat SRL at 147 loses to Mayweather Jr.

    Floyd is a great great fighter, but comparing him to ATG welters is a little unfair. The guy is a super-featherweight, and would probably be better suited for discussion against other ATG lightweights and feathers. Floyd rates much more highly at the 130-135 pounds range in my opinion.
     
  8. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :deal
     
  9. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Very good post..spot on.

    Unfortunately my opinion of Floyd isn't up there with most of the board. He had plenty of talent, as much as you could possibly ask for, but it appears to me he just don't like getting hit or getting in a fight. Now I know boxing is about hitting and not getting hit, and I know no one in their right mind wants to get hit, but guys like Duran, they love that type of game, and if go into a fight with him hoping not to get hit, well, you're in for a surprise, because you're very likely going to have to fight your way to victory.

    SRL probably didn't love getting hit either, but he sucked it up and did what he needed to do to win. Fortunately, like in the mold of Floyd he had all kinds of talent, but because he was a natural welterweight, he also had the natural power to fight in that division, something Floyd doesn't really have.

    But when one argues about Pac verses Duran, it's along the same lines. Essentially you're arguing that an ATG Super-featherweight could beat an ATG lightweight, when both are fighting at welterweight.
     
  10. Jear

    Jear Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Theres plenty for PBF to combat at 135 and 140 in the 80s before worrying about 147. Nothing he has done over 140 puts him in the same league as SRL, Duran, Hearns or Benetiz at this point
     
  11. boxon123

    boxon123 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How would you know ? Jr much praise defense may fall apart against elite competition but we will never find out because he never fights anyone in that class. He has even run away from an elite flyweight.
     
  12. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Weren't the 80s WWs weighing in on the day of the fight, rather than the day before? If that's the case, all of those guys fighting today would be even stronger, having a day to rehydrate.
     
  13. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Floyd's fantasy fights belong at 130.

    At WW he is a pile of ****.
     
  14. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ya but the problem is there fighting skills aren't going to miraculously improve in one day.

    Regarding Floyd a better question might he how would he do against prime ODL and SSM, those are more interesting questions for me. Personally I think he'd have his hands full fighting either of them.
     
  15. hussleman

    hussleman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A Prime SSM and ODLH will take more chances against Floyd. Therefore, they will get expose more and hit more cleanly. Floyd, has power in both hands and would mostly take both of them out later in the fight.