Floyd Wants 60-40. Pac Says Fug No!

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  1. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    it's clear that they are pricing floyd out of this fight. giving him a safe pass if this fight is not made.
     
  2. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Floyd/Mosley did better than Pac/Cotto in gate and PPV sales. And how is "arum does not believe in too much money invested in hyping a fight" help your argument...who cares, that is his own fault. So GBP invests more money, ok...their PPVs get more hype, and more buys then, is that what your saying?

    So now Marquez is a huge draw? :lol: Wow, how many buys did his fight with Diaz do? What about his much anticipated rematch with Pac? How did his fight with Barrera do in PPV buys? Oh yeah, Marquez really is a HUGE draw!!!!
    Pacs own team said Mosley wasn't a big enough draw to even fight, but now his "american fan base" carried the PPV sales??? Dude, your arguments are weak.

    Look at the facts:
    Floyd / Hatton > Pac / Hatton
    Floyd / Marquez > Pac / Marquez
    Floyd / Hoya > Pac / Hoya
    Floyd / Mosley > Pac / Cotto and Pac / Clottey

    Come on *******s!!!! If they were even in drawing power wouldn't Pac have at least out sold him one of those times???? :patsch
     
  3. ciscobox

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    positive.

    yet some posters (floyd nuthuggers) here still defends floyd for that. :lol:
    maybe to save face?? :yep
     
  4. puga_ni_nana

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    floyd has always benifited from hype. and being an american himself, he is an easier sell with his name alone than pac. but out of those you listed, the only good comparison is the floyd-mosley , pac-cotto and floyd-hatton , pac-hatton. pac-jmm was way before pac fought oscar while pac-oscar was considered a mismatch from the beginning.

    in the two fights with hatton and with mosley and cotto, floyds lead is not subtantial enough. you could factor then the hype factor by GBPs. meanwhile pac sold 700k PPV on his own name alone against an unknown clottey w/out 24/7 or promotion. when has floyd sold this number with just his name alone? can he fill 51,000 people in a stadium by fighting someone like clottey?
     
  5. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    why are you trying to twist my words around?

    what part dont you understand? the drug testing was a mind game ploy to get into Pac's head. Mayweather proved his point with the Mosley fight and showed how insistent he is about drug testing. Pac gives in and Floyd finds a new demand that is preventing the fight.
     
  6. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    I am glad you agree that Floyd is the bigger draw! :deal You just said it yourself :rofl:rofl
     
  7. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    You seem to be very confused.

    You say Floyd only outsells Pac because he is easier to hype, but fail to recognize that the same "hypability" and selling power would be relevant for this fight as well

    You ask when Floyd ever did those numbers with his name alone...When Floyd TRIES to sell a PPV of him shadow boxing we'll see how it does :lol::patsch The relevant point is that Floyd has done over 1 million buys in his last 4 fights, and outsold Pac against every common opponent.

    You point out that Pac sold out Dallas Stadium or whatever, but fail to recognize or understand that Floyds fight in the MGM, while having less people, EARNED MORE MONEY!!! :deal
     
  8. puga_ni_nana

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    yes but not enough to warrant a 60-40 demand, a 55-45 demand is not even fair. he has a case for 52-48 or 51-49 but should just settle for 50-50 since they have settled this before. floyd would not earn something he will earn getting a 50% share against pac if he will fight martinez getting 90%.

    pac being the p4p#1 right now and by the virtue of exciting style would offset this little advantage floyd has over pac because of him being american.
     
  9. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    I agree 60:40 is too much. 52:48 or 55:45 I'm fine with though
     
  10. Piye

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    Sounds like a lot of you Pac fans don't understand logic. if me and you go out and sell chocolate together and I always sell more than you should we split the earnings 50 / 50? I mean Floyd has been involved with less PPV fights than Pac but has sold more in total than Pac that really says something.
     
  11. mikeatris

    mikeatris SUPREME MATHEMATICS Full Member

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    50/50 split is the only way to go. If Floyd wants more then he knows for a fact Arum won't budge. Another way for him to get out of the fight, again.
     
  12. ciscobox

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    so you agree floyd deserves 60/40? :smoke
     
  13. mikeatris

    mikeatris SUPREME MATHEMATICS Full Member

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    That is so stupid. The fight will sell regardless if these 2 were fighting in my kitchen. Again another way for Floyd to get out of the fight. He knows Arum and Roach won't go for that one.
     
  14. HitBattousai

    HitBattousai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd is the bigger draw of the two. It doesn't matter though, because the difference, as illustrated by PBF vs Mosley, is marginal, neither fighter can get close to the same numbers with anyone else, and Pacquiao has proven to be more willing to face challenges over his career. He can easily go fight Cotto again for the 154 crown and add to his legacy while Floyd attempts to wait him out. Both camps know this. 60/40 is a demand that says Floyd doesn't want to get the fight made under those circumstances.
     
  15. puga_ni_nana

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    pac has also done 1M over PPV buys in his last 4 except for clottey fight where he sold 0.7M with his name alone. so please don't act like pac has nothing to offer floyd. floyd is not a much bigger draw than pac to suggest a 60-40 split.