Floyd wants to complete cut out Bob Arum and offers Pacquiao awful deal. Ridiculous.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by SonOfCuba, May 6, 2012.


  1. SpeedKills

    SpeedKills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    if pac is guaranteed 40mil but with a purse split of 90-10(i dont keep up with the politics of boxing), it is arum who is losing out no?
     
  2. FORMIDABLE

    FORMIDABLE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sure, and there is nothing wrong with Mayweather taking the $50M flat fee counter offer, or the 45-45 +10% for the winner/or 60-40 for the winner offer from Pac. Seeing as Mayweather is proud gambler who always bets on himself that shouldn't be a problem.
     
  3. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Manny doesn't even have copies of his own bout contracts. Hell we probably know more than his ass does about his ****. :lol:

    To be fair Arum did say the fight still wasn't going to happen even with a 50/50 split.
     
  4. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    First of all Manny didn't offer him anything Arum did and that **** was just all talk and politics.

    Think about it. Arum pays Floyd 50 million, Manny 50 million. That is 100 million dollars off the top. Add PPV upside to both fighters. How the hell does Arum get paid? He isn't going to get 25% of Floyd's money. :patsch
     
  5. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    testing is no longer an issue, but Arum is. So is Floyd's greed.

    But, after the numbers come out for this fight, Floyd is going to be much more reluctant to give up the split
     
  6. salty trunks

    salty trunks Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Its definitely the main problem. Floyd hasnt fought one of Arums fighters since the split. As soon as one becomes available he fights them. The simple fact is he doesnt want to work with him.

    I think if Pac wasnt promoted by Arum the fight would have happened a long time ago. Its the wave of the future for established fighters. They can sub a promoter to stage an event and pay them a fee. Its smart business and will and has already changed boxing and thats the reason why guys like King are out, and Golden Boy promotes everything because they are working with fighters in a capacity that used to be the opposite. The promoters were making most of the money.

    Manny knows how this works so hes not going to admit that he has Arum to pay who would get a massive cut out of his paycheck if he agrees to a flat fee. Hes better off fighting guys under Arum until his contract expires and then fighting Mayweather and get all that 40 mill that Floyd offered him.
     
  7. salty trunks

    salty trunks Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Floyd paid Manny 40 million his promoter is entitled to a large cut of that. If Manny fought Floyd under a Golden Boy promotion free of Arum he would only have to pay a fraction of what Arum collects to Golden Boy.

    Manny knows how it works now and Im sure if he stays undefeated and his contract expires he will do the same thing as Cotto. It makes smart business and even Arum admitted Cotto made the smarter business choice.

    Watch how Cotto fights Canelo next under the same circumstances.
     
  8. terbear2187

    terbear2187 Guest

    i realize by looking at your avatar theres no point in telling you this, but here ill try mayweather played cottos game he went toe to toe with cotto something he almost never does he elected not to do what he does best and thats "box" the fight wasn't even close when he did what cotto wanted what makes you think if mayweather keeps him at range cotto has a chance, cuz i gave cotto 3 rounds maybe a 4th if your being nice.
     
  9. terbear2187

    terbear2187 Guest

    how can you peeps argue facts look at the pay difference, but you want him to get a even 50/50 SMFH. if i was floyd he wouldn't be getting 50/50 no where near it not when i offered him 3 times his biggest pay day
     
  10. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    How can you peeps keep ignoring the fact that the figure turned into the commission is not always the TOTAL? It is the guaranteed amount. It doesn't reflect the upside? OH, I know how you keep ignoring it. :yep

    How do you not also realize a May/Pac fight is a COMPLETELY different animal? It will be comparable to May/DLH. Where else can FLOYD make that kinda money? That's right, no where. Stop being intentionally obtuse on this point. It makes you look stupid to anyone that isn't totally clueless.
     
  11. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What the fight generates isn't really relevant. The number that truley matters is what is left for the fighters. Promoters need to get paid, cable and satellite providers are not broadcasting out of the kindness of their heart, you need to pay to promote the fight etc etc etc. I don't know what the number really is but you seem to be insunuating that floyd would walk with the other 90 million.

    Take a fight like Delahoya vs Trinidad for example. The fight generated about 71.4 million in PPV buys and Oscar and tito combined got about 31 mil of that. When you look at how much of the PPF money actually makes it to the fighters 40 million is not a bad offer for Manny especially considering he is not making anywhere near that much fighting anyone else.
     
  12. Concrete

    Concrete Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mayweather should conceed to 50-50 even though he makes more money. What he will gain when he beats Pac is worth more then the extra 10mil or what ever it will be.
     
  13. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    **** your life..those are the numbers now put up a better rebuttal.:deal:hi:
     
  14. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Floyd is breaking the purse record...If he takes a 50/50, assuming they would split 100 million, he would make less money for the Pacquiao fight then the Cotto fight...Oscar and Floyd split 79 million.

    Yea, taking 50/50 is not a fair deal on Floyd's part..he would take a paycut while Manny would more than double his career high payday WITH PPV.:deal
     
  15. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What is this stupidity?

    14 day testing cut off
    50/50

    WTF happened? Bob Arum happened that is what. Same reason why a bunch of other fighters are being ruined by Bob like Donaire. Why on the Earth is a guy with Nonito's talent and age (29) fighting guys like this? All to line Uncle Bob's pockets.

    Bob Arum is bad for Boxing. Period.